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[Nikitas]

Deniz has a point.

[humanist]

I am surprised that inteligent men such as you nikitas & iceman are doing talking to a biggot from Britain preaching to both of you about Cyprus

[iceman]

iceman

What a joke...Your above statement clearly states your ignorance on Cyprus issues.
If it was up to Denktas,he would never ever open the ceasefire line..
The checkpoints were opened with direct orders from Turkish army to help Turkey defend herself against the property cases brought against her by GC's at ECHR.

iceman I admire you for your honesty.

Thank you for also enlightenning me on this matter. could you please expand a little more? If you feel it's appropriate of course.

Remember Loizidou v Turkey case at ECHR?
Turkey was found guilty of violating the rights of Mrs Loizidou by preventing her from going to her property located in Kyrenia,north Cyprus.
Taking into account thousands of similar pending cases,Turkey decided to open the checkpoints to avoid being convicted and paying compensation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loizidou_vs_Turkey

[Viewpoint]

iceman

What a joke...Your above statement clearly states your ignorance on Cyprus issues.
If it was up to Denktas,he would never ever open the ceasefire line..
The checkpoints were opened with direct orders from Turkish army to help Turkey defend herself against the property cases brought against her by GC's at ECHR.

iceman I admire you for your honesty.

Thank you for also enlightenning me on this matter. could you please expand a little more? If you feel it's appropriate of course.

Remember Loizidou v Turkey case at ECHR?
Turkey was found guilty of violating the rights of Mrs Loizidou by preventing her from going to her property located in Kyrenia,north Cyprus.
Taking into account thousands of similar pending cases,Turkey decided to open the checkpoints to avoid being convicted and paying compensation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loizidou_vs_Turkey

When will these cases ever get heard and decided upon, we have been hearing the same thing for years, cant see anything being resolved there.

[kentish]

Sorry mate but their is not such thing as a pure "Cypriot" identity nor CYPRIOT People - It's either; Turkish-Cypriot or Greek-Cypriot!

To the person who said the above...

How do you know that with so much certainty? Did you do a DNA test on everyone?

I think Kentish was on a oral DNA analysis taste test while he was in Cyprus for a week recently.!

Someone should have told him, that sampling only few people does not give an accurate results.!


l didnt go to the country known as northen cyprus to sample people and if i had stayed for a month my fountain of all knowledge ,you would have said a month of sampling was inadequate and that i should have stayed 2 months

Perhaps he would have a better sampling if he stays for a month next time around.!

[DT.]

iceman

What a joke...Your above statement clearly states your ignorance on Cyprus issues.
If it was up to Denktas,he would never ever open the ceasefire line..
The checkpoints were opened with direct orders from Turkish army to help Turkey defend herself against the property cases brought against her by GC's at ECHR.

iceman I admire you for your honesty.

Thank you for also enlightenning me on this matter. could you please expand a little more? If you feel it's appropriate of course.

Remember Loizidou v Turkey case at ECHR?
Turkey was found guilty of violating the rights of Mrs Loizidou by preventing her from going to her property located in Kyrenia,north Cyprus.
Taking into account thousands of similar pending cases,Turkey decided to open the checkpoints to avoid being convicted and paying compensation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loizidou_vs_Turkey

When will these cases ever get heard and decided upon, we have been hearing the same thing for years, cant see anything being resolved there.

This particular case got heard, got decided upon and the penalties were found against Turkey who was found guilty. Now if Turkey chooses to ignore any global institution that happens to disagree with its millitary strategy then one day it will turn round to bite Turkey on the arse. Turkey will not be able to resolve ALL its conflicts with armed action. It will need these institutions sooner or later.

[DT.]

Double up

[kentish]

Sorry mate but their is not such thing as a pure "Cypriot" identity nor CYPRIOT People - It's either; Turkish-Cypriot or Greek-Cypriot!

To the person who said the above...

How do you know that with so much certainty? Did you do a DNA test on everyone?

I think Kentish was on a oral DNA analysis taste test while he was in Cyprus for a week recently.!

Someone should have told him, that sampling only few people does not give an accurate results.!

Perhaps he would have a better sampling if he stays for a month next time around.!

thank you ,you fountain of all knowledge,i did of course go to northern cyprus to sample peoples opinions ! .you are so full of excrement, why on earth would i want to waste my time sampling opinionswhen i can log on to this forum and read your mindblowing thoughts , you are of course the man with his finger on the button.
had i said i had stayed for a month you would have said a months sampling was inadequate and i should have stayed two months

[MrH]

GR,

It's better when you are not being rude - thank you! And, I am only expressing my Turkish Cypriot opinion mate, no hard feelings. It's hard for me to respond to all of your questions as I don't spend much time on my PC as I'd like to.

To the person who said the above...

How do you know that with so much certainty? Did you do a DNA test on everyone?

I was only referring to the subject concerning a "Cypriot" homogenius people - which their clearly is not, but more of the state of Cyprus today.

Okay, their is a "Cypriot" password according to the Original Cyprus Republic and the issuing of passports to Turkish Cypriots, but the situation has obviously changed. This is my whole argument, we are now presented with a different platform, one based on two states, two peoples. I'm not expecting you to agree GR, but you must respect my opinion as that the point of a forum, right?

As for the DNA side of your question, well, i'd like to believe that I originate from the Turks of 1571, but they of course didn't have a women on-board their ship when they landed in Famagusta! So, the mothers of many of the Turks of 1571 many be a mixture. Also, please do not forget the many Turks that migrated from Konya, Kahraman and etc back in the same period (1571).

I think it would be best to keep DNA out of it as you never know, you may actually find that you could have a blood line at some point originating from one of those tough Ottoman soldiers!

DNA is a very dangerous tool if looked into too deeply!

Shall we call it quits?

[Nikitas]

Read one study which says that traces the incidence of Thalassaemia in the Mediterranean people. We Cypriots have a pattern of the disease which is not prevalent in Turkey or mainland Greece. So DNA would tend to show that Cypriots remaine something apart all along.