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Postby connor » Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:03 pm

Recently I have been trying to locate a part for one of my motorcycles. In the process I contacted two businesses in the USA.

I was somewhat gobsmacked when reading their replies...they went something like this...

"We refuse to have any dealings whatsoever with Cyprus. We will neither accept credit or debit cards or even cash and refuse point blank to ship any goods to that country. This is due to the enormous amount of fraudulent business transactions and credit card frauds originating there. We are sorry we cannot be of service to you."

Ouch...!
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Re: Our Reputation Abroad...?

Postby kurupetos » Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:52 pm

connor wrote:Recently I have been trying to locate a part for one of my motorcycles. In the process I contacted two businesses in the USA.

I was somewhat gobsmacked when reading their replies...they went something like this...

"We refuse to have any dealings whatsoever with Cyprus. We will neither accept credit or debit cards or even cash and refuse point blank to ship any goods to that country. This is due to the enormous amount of fraudulent business transactions and credit card frauds originating there. We are sorry we cannot be of service to you."

Ouch...!


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Postby Oracle » Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:24 pm

It would be interesting to have the exact remarks and perhaps the two businesses ....

The term "that country" sounds a tad dismissive, and perhaps they are not "professional" establishments.
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Postby Filitsa » Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:45 pm

This article might shed some light:

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/0424/090.html

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Postby connor » Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:52 pm

I quote....

"Dear Sir..We will absolutely NOT do business, or SHIP anything to the country of Cyprus. Due to the high volume of FRAUDULENT purchases and CREDIT CARD scams coming from that country."

Their address www.repairmanual.com

I did not retain details of the second company but their reply, from memory, was very similar. Both companies are located in the USA.
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Postby Nikitas » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:01 pm

I bet these firms have not done any business with Cyprus nor any foreign countries other than the ones Americans can recognise from their grade school geography lessons.

How can there be fraud from Cyprus or any other place when the buyer in an internet transaction PREPAYS the goods, at a loss of interest involved in the waiting period for the goods to arrive, which loss is not reflected in any form of discount etc.

Or are these people trying to say that they sell goods overseas on credit? In that case they are the only ones.
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Postby CBBB » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:06 pm

Nikitas wrote:
I bet these firms have not done any business with Cyprus nor any foreign countries other than the ones Americans can recognise from their grade school geography lessons.


The only countries they might recognise are Canada and Mexico, even then I am not to sure.
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Postby Nikitas » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:08 pm

Talking about having the necessary knowledge to carry out international sales, have a look at some instances.

I am constantly bombarded by Amazon asking me to open a "shop". I decided to look into it. Well, it turns out that these "shops" are only available to residents of very few countries, and Greece is not one of them. But the genies working for Amazon have not figure out yet that Greece is not in the USA.

The highest percentage of Ebay sellers refusing to sell outside their countries are Americans. If you enter the Ebay forums and pose the question Why not? There is no reasonable reply. Undersandably so, because if you live in New York there is not difference between PREPAID sales to California or to Cyprus, Vanuatu or any other place. One idiot had the nerve to say that sending things overseas involved a longer wait at the post office, because the items had to be weighed. At least he got the response from his fellow Americans, all packages have to be weighed regardless of destination.

I have had years of experience with Americans and their lack of understanding of the world when it comes to doing business. I am sure that if the Lebanese or the Greeks were in charge of US exports America would be much richer than it is now.
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Postby Nikitas » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:18 pm

Filitsa,

Have you read that piece of garbage in Forbes that you linked us to?

It starts with a long list of unfounded gossip to conclude that since 2004 Cyprus has changed its laws but still offers a low corporate tax rate. SO WHAT?????

Ireland has a low corporate tax rate, but it also has a whole bunch of Irish American politicians in Congress and no one writes that kind of shit about them.

Honestly Filitsa, where do you think it is more likely to find gun running networks, in Ulster or in Cyprus?

What thes bums who write and edit this crap do not tell, and if told the picture changes entirely, is that corporate tax may be lower in Cyprus, but your PERSONAL TAX, still has to be paid on the profits reported and a company registered in Cyprus cannot postpone the allocation of profits for more than two years. Once you add up corporate tax and personal tax from a company the total comes to 35 per cent tax, which is higher than most countries around the world and the figure demolishes the "Tax Haven" title for Cyprus.

Want a tax haven go to British Gibraltar!
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Re: Our Reputation Abroad...?

Postby Get Real! » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:43 pm

connor wrote:Recently I have been trying to locate a part for one of my motorcycles. In the process I contacted two businesses in the USA.

I was somewhat gobsmacked when reading their replies...they went something like this...

"We refuse to have any dealings whatsoever with Cyprus. We will neither accept credit or debit cards or even cash and refuse point blank to ship any goods to that country. This is due to the enormous amount of fraudulent business transactions and credit card frauds originating there. We are sorry we cannot be of service to you."

Ouch...!

ABSOLUTE RUBBISH!

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I've received victim reports from 22 countries: Canada, France, Eire (Ireland), England, Scotland, Australia, New Zealand, Norway, Germany, Mexico, Brazil, Portugal, Belgium, Japan, Sweden, Finland, Switzerland, Austria, South Korea, El Salvador, South Korea, and across the USA.

The situation in Japan was particularly severe. There are Japanese sites similar to this one. Visa International's fraud office received hundreds of notices from Japan's largest bank. Japanese victims may have been particularly embarrassed by the connection to pornography sites; many more may be remaining silent.

TT reports some German banks (eg HYPO) have very rigorous security for CC transactions. I've heard from relatively few German victims.

http://www.faughnan.com/ccfraud.html#World

Cyprus is not even mentioned. Btw, I've purchased plenty of parts from the US with my Cypriot issued mastercard and had absolutely no problem.

Maybe you should check your credit card history dude... :lol:
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