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[Kikapu]

The hospitals are there (Nicosia General) but TC's will want their own hospitals with their own doctors.
The electricity grid and roads will require millions, and you won't find TC's digging the roads any more than you would dig them yourself. They have got too used to "settlers" digging their roads. Also a good theory about the roads and the economy - Hitler had a similar one.
Are you saying that the owners of Famagusta will pay for TC's to rebuild them? Is this the same TC's that will be digging the roads? Hmmm. Is there a picture forming here? Once again TC's labouring for their GC masters?
In any case, Famagusta may pay wages but it won't build any schools in Guzelyurt.
"The idea here is to make the TCs prosperous without Turkey. That has been the bet all along."
You could have fooled me. I thought the bet all along had been to reduce the TC's to total poverty to make them "give in" when all it's done is make them totally dependant on Turkey.

So, if the NeoPartitionist got their way and they got an agreed partition with some land returned back to the GC's and others either retained ownership of their property in the north or compensated at today's market price, just where will the TC's get the money to

a) pay the GC property owners
b) pay their civil servants and pensions
c) pay to run their country
d) pay to re-build the country (infrastructure)
e) .............and so on since income from selling GC properties to the foreigners will dry up, if it hasn't already dried up with today's financial problems.

In other words, are you suggesting that the TC's are better off to find a peaceful settlement with the GC's than going on their own, because you have just dumped all of the north's financial problems on the South, just because the TC's are not going to dig the streets to rebuild their own country. So, if they are not willing to dig the streets to improve their country and Turkey will not pay for it, who is going to pay the settlers to dig the streets for the TC's.? Where is the future for a TC independent country if they are financially broke now and in the future.?

[Get Real!]

The hospitals are there (Nicosia General) but TC's will want their own hospitals with their own doctors.
The electricity grid and roads will require millions, and you won't find TC's digging the roads any more than you would dig them yourself. They have got too used to "settlers" digging their roads. Also a good theory about the roads and the economy - Hitler had a similar one.
Are you saying that the owners of Famagusta will pay for TC's to rebuild them? Is this the same TC's that will be digging the roads? Hmmm. Is there a picture forming here? Once again TC's labouring for their GC masters?
In any case, Famagusta may pay wages but it won't build any schools in Guzelyurt.
"The idea here is to make the TCs prosperous without Turkey. That has been the bet all along."
You could have fooled me. I thought the bet all along had been to reduce the TC's to total poverty to make them "give in" when all it's done is make them totally dependant on Turkey.

So, if the NeoPartitionist got their way and they got an agreed partition with some land returned back to the GC's and others either retained ownership of their property in the north or compensated at today's market price, just where will the TC's get the money to

a) pay the GC property owners
b) pay their civil servants and pensions
c) pay to run their country
d) pay to re-build the country (infrastructure)
e) .............and so on since income from selling GC properties to the foreigners will dry up, if it hasn't already dried up with today's financial problems.

In other words, are you suggesting that the TC's are better off to find a peaceful settlement with the GC's than going on their own, because you have just dumped all of the north's financial problems on the South, just because the TC's are not going to dig the streets to rebuild their own country. So, if they are not willing to dig the streets to improve their country and Turkey will not pay for it, who is going to pay the settlers to dig the streets for the TC's.? Where is the future for a TC independent country if they are financially broke now and in the future.?

You've just ruined the pseudo dream...

[vaughanwilliams]

Kikapu,

You must realise that since 1974 you have been fighting a mini "cold war" with the TRNC. "Winning" that war may prove to be the easy bit. "Winning" the peace will be when the real trouble starts. One of the main purposes of the TRNC coming to a solution with you will not be so that you can start kissing/hugging each other, it will be so that the North can enjoy the fruits of the EU which you have been so enjoying since 2004. Obviously, the EU will see Cyprus as a whole (as it always has and you have always claimed) and any funds that are granted to Cyprus will be directed to its neediest areas. The money will be spent in the North and the work will be done by whoever is best capable and most competitive. This is highly unlikely to be TC's, much as you may like it to be.

[MrH]

The North is only "Regarded" as Bankrupt in the eyes of the GCs, as it is them who is keeping our TRNC in Isolation - but this will obviously end soon. Have you heard the latest regarding Qatar and the TRNC? Economic and poltical ventures?

[Get Real!]

The North is only "Regarded" as Bankrupt in the eyes of the GCs, as it is them who is keeping our TRNC in Isolation - but this will obviously end soon. Have you heard the latest regarding Qatar and the TRNC? Economic and poltical ventures?

But where is your link?

[CBBB]

In an address at the opening reception, Mr Avcı said that the office will make it possible for the northern occupied areas of Cyprus and Qatar to establish social and cultural ties and to cooperate in the fields of trade, tourism and sports.

http://www.famagusta-gazette.com/defaul ... te&he=.com

Economic and political ventures?

No Qatari official is mentioned as being there!

[Tim Drayton]

The North is only "Regarded" as Bankrupt in the eyes of the GCs, as it is them who is keeping our TRNC in Isolation - but this will obviously end soon. Have you heard the latest regarding Qatar and the TRNC? Economic and poltical ventures?

But where is your link?

There is a brief article in today’s Yeni Düzen newspaper about this:

http://www.yeniduzengazetesi.com/templa ... 4&zoneid=3

It seems that the TRNC has opened its thirteenth representative office in the Qatari capital of Doha (where I lived for two years!). The opening ceremony was attended by Turgay Avcı, Turkey's Minister of Culture and Tourism, Azerbaijan’s Ambassador to Doha, representatives from the Kuwaiti, Iranian and Sudanese Embassy along with Qatari and Kuwait businessmen.

Arif Altay is the TRNC’s representative in Qatar.

Hmm. No mention of "economic and political ventures".

Whatever next. Will Northern Ireland open a representative office there? I don’t think so because it is part of the UK, and makes no claims to being a soveriegn nation.

[Get Real!]

The North is only "Regarded" as Bankrupt in the eyes of the GCs, as it is them who is keeping our TRNC in Isolation - but this will obviously end soon. Have you heard the latest regarding Qatar and the TRNC? Economic and poltical ventures?

But where is your link?

There is a brief article in today’s Yeni Düzen newspaper about this:

http://www.yeniduzengazetesi.com/templa ... 4&zoneid=3

It seems that the TRNC has opened its thirteenth representative office in the Qatari capital of Doha (where I lived for two years!). The opening ceremony was attended by Turgay Avcı, Turkey's Minister of Culture and Tourism, Azerbaijan’s Ambassador to Doha, representatives from the Kuwaiti, Iranian and Sudanese Embassy along with Qatari and Kuwait businessmen.

Arif Altay is the TRNC’s representative in Qatar.

Hmm. No mention of "economic and political ventures".

Whatever next. Will Northern Ireland open a representative office there? I don’t think so because it is part of the UK, and makes no claims to being a soveriegn nation.

It’ll be interesting to see how the RoC reacts to this in lieu of the recent agreements with Qatar.

http://news.pseka.net/index.php?module=article&id=9307

[Paphitis]

The North is only "Regarded" as Bankrupt in the eyes of the GCs, as it is them who is keeping our TRNC in Isolation - but this will obviously end soon. Have you heard the latest regarding Qatar and the TRNC? Economic and poltical ventures?

What a joke you have become.

You are free to open one of these "Trade and Tourism Offices" in Australia as well. Nothing stopping you from doing this.

But this does not mean that Australia will EVER develop Trade and Economic links with the "trnc".

The same with Qatar. As far as I know, Cypriot and Qatari relations are excellent. So keep dreaming and clutching at those straws.

[halil]

THE TRADE AND TOURISM OFFICE WILL HELP IMPROVE RELATIONS BETWEEN THE TRNC AND QATAR

The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus has opened an office in the Qatar’s capital Doha.

The TRNC Trade and Tourism office was officially opened by the deputy-Prime Minister – Foreign Minister Turgay Avcı last night.



In an address at the opening reception, Mr Avcı said that the Office will make it possible for the TRNC and Qatar to establish social and cultural ties and to cooperate in the fields of trade, tourism and sports.`Kuwait and Oman are to possible locations where similar offices can be opened` the Minister added.

Mr Avcı stated that the Turkish Cypriot Side is continuing negotiations with the Greek Cypriot Side with the aim of solving the Cyprus problem while it is continuing the efforts towards development the TRNC further.
The Representative of the TRNC Office in Doha Arif Altay, for his part, expressed the belief that the office will play a significant role in establishing ties between the TRNC and Qatar.

The Turkish Minister for Culture and Tourism Ertuğrul Günay – who is also in Qatar – welcomed the opening of the office in Qatar, which he said is amongst the most rapidly growing countries in the region.