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[Get Real!]

I’ve lost count how many times I’ve protested about this incessant madness to erase Cypriot history and replace it with Greek!

Get Real, almost the whole Cypriot history is Greek history. Written records (which separate history from prehistory) existed in Cyprus for only about 200 years before the Greeks came. And those pre-Greek records have not even been decoded yet. So basically you want to replace the whole Cyprus history with some prehistory of a couple of villages like Chirokitia and Sotira, and erase our whole history of 3500 years just because it is Greek?

What should the Turks then call themselves when in the land they inhabit now existed not just some prehistoric settlements but whole civilizations and empires?

Piratis, instead of countering the above which I can't be bothered with right now, I'll simply repeat this to you which I hope for your country's sake you'll take heed...

Those who insist that they are “Hellenes” had better be ready to accommodate a partitioned “Greek side” in conjunction with a “Turkish side”. Don’t kid yourselves that partition is avoidable while playing the dual-citizenship crap!

YOU WILL SHOOT YOURSELF IN BOTH FEET SO WAKE UP!

[Viewpoint]

What “fanatics” is everyone talking about? What we saw were a variety of groups of school kids aged between 14 and17, chanting a variety of slogans as instructed by their respective group leaders who in turn get their instructions from political party youth groups!

If anything it was an eye opener for the Greek Cypriot community that they need to have a SERIOUS LOOK AT THEIR LACK OF UNANIMITY!

Those who insist that they are “Hellenes” had better be ready to accommodate a partitioned “Greek side” in conjunction with a “Turkish side”. Don’t kid yourselves that partition is avoidable while playing the dual-citizenship crap!

YOU WILL SHOOT YOURSELF IN BOTH FEET SO WAKE UP!

On the other hand, those who toss democracy aside and go along with undemocratic plans like Christofias is currently doing, are ALSO planning a partitioned “Greek side” in conjunction with a “Turkish side” so the end result is the same!

There is only ONE WAY OUT…

Embrace your inherited Cypriotness and insist on DEMOCRACY while shunning everything else.

BBF with political equality is whats on the table feel free to reject it at any time.

Partition ALREADY EXISTS so it would be most foolish for any GC government to also put their signature at the bottom... because that's what they'd effectively be doing!

Btw, don't assume VP, that the current arrangements will be supported by the masses.

The masses if asked can do what they want and take any consequences that it may entail.

[Get Real!]

The masses if asked can do what they want and take any consequences that it may entail.

Yeah, just like the infamous AP "consequences"....

[Piratis]

What “fanatics” is everyone talking about? What we saw were a variety of groups of school kids aged between 14 and17, chanting a variety of slogans as instructed by their respective group leaders who in turn get their instructions from political party youth groups!

If anything it was an eye opener for the Greek Cypriot community that they need to have a SERIOUS LOOK AT THEIR LACK OF UNANIMITY!

Those who insist that they are “Hellenes” had better be ready to accommodate a partitioned “Greek side” in conjunction with a “Turkish side”. Don’t kid yourselves that partition is avoidable while playing the dual-citizenship crap!

YOU WILL SHOOT YOURSELF IN BOTH FEET SO WAKE UP!

On the other hand, those who toss democracy aside and go along with undemocratic plans like Christofias is currently doing, are ALSO planning a partitioned “Greek side” in conjunction with a “Turkish side” so the end result is the same!

There is only ONE WAY OUT…

Embrace your inherited Cypriotness and insist on DEMOCRACY while shunning everything else.

BBF with political equality is whats on the table feel free to reject it at any time.

Why reject it? We have no problem with a BBF as long as it is political equality the way we understand it and land distribution the way we like it.

We have already rejected a "BBF" which was not like that and everybody recognized that we had every right to do so.

You have every right to reject what your leader puts in front of you if its put to a referendum. A second rejection by the GCs is a big gamble and imo will not be ignored by the world.

And that is exactly why our leader will not put into a referendum a BBF that we will not like.

[Viewpoint]

The masses if asked can do what they want and take any consequences that it may entail.

Yeah, just like the infamous AP "consequences"....

Nothing to fear then, why not go for it.

[Get Real!]

And as we speak...

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=75 ... =351020204

[bigOz]

And as we speak...

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=75 ... =351020204

And you think that's funny? Or is that another hysterical laugh? for those who may be too lazy to clik on the link this is what it says:

Turkish State Minister and Deputy Prime Minister Cemil Cicek
Turkey says it will not pursue its plans to realize the dream of EU accession at all costs, a country's senior official says.

Turkish State Minister and Deputy Prime Minister Cemil Cicek said although Ankara was willing to join the European Union, "We are not in a state to enter the EU at all costs," the Turkish daily Hurriyet reported on Saturday.

"No one can force us to choose between Cyprus or the European Union. When we began our path in 1999, Cyprus was not a requirement of the EU. The negotiations are based on the Copenhagen criteria. There is no topic of Cyprus in the Copenhagen criteria," Cicek reiterated.

The Turkish official also said the EU cannot ignore Turkey's strategic importance. "Everyone must be aware of Turkey's importance. Without the contribution of Turkey, the problems in the Middle East and the Caucasus can not be solved."

The European Union has so far rejected Turkey's membership bid over several issues including the Cyprus dispute. The 27-member bloc has announced that it would not allow Turkey to join the bloc unless it recognized Cyprus.

Turkey, however, refused to recognize the sovereignty of the Republic of Cyprus, an EU member.

So there goes your claim that Turkey is begging to get into EU!

[Paphitis]

Your answer shows how little you understand things work Paphidis. Little Cyprus try to play it big in the past and this is where it got us. Do you really think we can stand in the way of the strategic planning of the big players in the region? You must be a lunatic to believe this.

You also going to tell us that maybe we should not stand up for our rights because we are little and we should only get what we deserve?

You are a disgusting individual.

[Get Real!]

And as we speak...

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=75 ... =351020204

And you think that's funny?

If anything it was a desperate speech by a broken Turkey. Remarks like…

“The EU cannot ignore Turkey's strategic importance”

And:

"Everyone must be aware of Turkey's importance.”

…shows them pleading to be highly regarded!

Finally, comments like…

“Without the contribution of Turkey, the problems in the Middle East and the Caucasus can not be solved."

…show how clueless Turkey is regarding geopolitical forces. Typical Turkey overestimating her worth...

So there goes your claim that Turkey is begging to get into EU!

If anything it exposed their desperation and frustration, that's why it's funny!

[Paphitis]

And as we speak...

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=75 ... =351020204

And you think that's funny?

If anything it was a desperate speech by a broken Turkey. Remarks like…

“The EU cannot ignore Turkey's strategic importance”

And:

"Everyone must be aware of Turkey's importance.”

…shows them pleading to be highly regarded!

Finally, comments like…

“Without the contribution of Turkey, the problems in the Middle East and the Caucasus can not be solved."

…show how clueless Turkey is regarding geopolitical forces. Typical Turkey overestimating her worth...

So there goes your claim that Turkey is begging to get into EU!

If anything it exposed their desperation and frustration, that's why it's funny!

Very accurate analysis GR!

Turkey would love us to believe that the EU is not all that important to them, so they can break us and force us to accept their demands which would only legitimise the current partition.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=20790

Very soon Turkey will become more desperate. They need to choose between EAST or WEST.