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[denizaksulu]

there is the expression'common descent'.

Deniz do not struggle with a separate definition of Cypriot ethnicity and Greek ethnicity. The reason you will remain confused is because they are inseparable.

Look instead to the north and south of our Turkish occupied island and you will see a "perfect" example of separate ethnicities .... politically, culturally, religiously, ideologically and migratory .... Don't single out one factor, keep it human, keep it whole!

Oracle dearest, I am delighted that you are currently surviving your Pneumonia. Having looked up a 'learned' definition of 'Ethnicity' I was merely pointing out the futility of a proper definition. People will use one which will suit their political agenda. I am not trying to re-write definitions.

Stay in bed and keep warm and dry.

Have a good day.

[denizaksulu]

deniz, you didn't give me your definition of ethnicity yet. Firstly what is your ethnicity? You say you are "Turkish Cypriot", right? So tell me why you are "Turkish Cypriot"? What makes you "Turkish Cypriot"? Did you go to your local laboratory and made a DNA test and they told you the result is that you are a "Turkish Cypriot"?

T_C, languages exchange words for 1000s of years. There is nothing new. The Turkish words we use are insignificant in comparison with the Greek words and words of Greek root which are used in most other European languages.

Here are some more maps for GR, first one from National Geographic.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dist ... raphic.jpg


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dist ... n_1923.jpg

Piratis, you have decided that I am not TC by merely stating that its language and common culture. Lo and behold what am I indeed. You have made me 'English'.

[Get Real!]

Here are some more maps for GR, first one from National Geographic.

I’m not surprised you can find maps with Cyprus painted blue; it’s all part of the Greek sabotage of Cypriot history I mentioned earlier. Many Cypriots themselves were accomplices in having their real heritage replaced by Greek as a result of their frustrations at being unable to counter the Ottoman suppressions.

[Paphitis]

Here are some more maps for GR, first one from National Geographic.

I’m not surprised you can find maps with Cyprus painted blue; it’s all part of the Greek sabotage of Cypriot history I mentioned earlier. Many Cypriots themselves were accomplices in having their real heritage replaced by Greek as a result of their frustrations at being unable to counter the Ottoman suppressions.

Ottoman oppression began in 1571.

But our Hellenic Roots date back to 1600BC. We even worshipped the same Gods.

You are clutching at straws now.

[Get Real!]

Here are some more maps for GR, first one from National Geographic.

I’m not surprised you can find maps with Cyprus painted blue; it’s all part of the Greek sabotage of Cypriot history I mentioned earlier. Many Cypriots themselves were accomplices in having their real heritage replaced by Greek as a result of their frustrations at being unable to counter the Ottoman suppressions.

Ottoman oppression began in 1571.

And about a century and a half later the Cypriots decided that they were “Hellenic” hoping to repeat Greece's 1821 success, whereas prior to the Ottomans nobody on Cyprus was interested in anything "Hellenic".

But our Hellenic Roots date back to 1600BC. We even worshipped the same Gods.

"In 1200-1300BC Mycenaean refugees arrived from the Aegean"

Are these your Hellenistic roots?

I guess by now we must be Lebanese for we have accepted no less than three waves of their refugees since the early 80s.

[Oracle]

Here are some more maps for GR, first one from National Geographic.

I’m not surprised you can find maps with Cyprus painted blue; it’s all part of the Greek sabotage of Cypriot history I mentioned earlier. Many Cypriots themselves were accomplices in having their real heritage replaced by Greek as a result of their frustrations at being unable to counter the Ottoman suppressions.

If that were the case GR! (and people have chosen stranger alliances in times of war) thank you for clarifying how you would have countered the frustration of the Ottoman suppression .... by joining forces with them to fight back the marauding Greeks. If there were just a few more of you, since one is so noisy, it explains why we are still stuck with the Ottoman Remnants and failed to win our freedom like the rest of the Ottoman-suppressed Hellenes.

[Get Real!]

If that were the case GR! (and people have chosen stranger alliances in times of war) thank you for clarifying how you would have countered the frustration of the Ottoman suppression .... by joining forces with them to fight back the marauding Greeks.

A daft assumption but abandoning their real herritage for Greek turned out to be the Cypriot pinnacle of their stupidity and demise.

[Oracle]

If that were the case GR! (and people have chosen stranger alliances in times of war) thank you for clarifying how you would have countered the frustration of the Ottoman suppression .... by joining forces with them to fight back the marauding Greeks.

A daft assumption but abandoning their real herritage for Greek turned out to be the Cypriot pinnacle of their stupidity and demise.

So we had an Ottoman invasion in 1570 because the Cypriots were associated with Greeks, and for no other reasons?

So we failed to remove the Ottoman suppressors in 1821, because we were too-Greek like in our thinking and not Cypriot-like enough to succeed?

So Grivas, our Greek trained General ..... was part of this pinnacle of stupidity, because he led the removal of the Brits?

[Get Real!]

If that were the case GR! (and people have chosen stranger alliances in times of war) thank you for clarifying how you would have countered the frustration of the Ottoman suppression .... by joining forces with them to fight back the marauding Greeks.

A daft assumption but abandoning their real herritage for Greek turned out to be the Cypriot pinnacle of their stupidity and demise.

So we had an Ottoman invasion in 1570 because the Cypriots were associated with Greeks, and for no other reasons?

So we failed to remove the Ottoman suppressors in 1821, because we were too-Greek like in our thinking and not Cypriot-like enough to succeed?

So Grivas, our Greek trained General ..... was part of this pinnacle of stupidity, because he led the removal of the Brits?

Your struggle to comprehend what I’ve been saying; and you’d be hard pressed to find anyone who writes as clearly as I do, is testimony that you’re not as intelligent as you think and history/politics isn’t your forte.

[Oracle]

If that were the case GR! (and people have chosen stranger alliances in times of war) thank you for clarifying how you would have countered the frustration of the Ottoman suppression .... by joining forces with them to fight back the marauding Greeks.

A daft assumption but abandoning their real herritage for Greek turned out to be the Cypriot pinnacle of their stupidity and demise.

So we had an Ottoman invasion in 1570 because the Cypriots were associated with Greeks, and for no other reasons?

So we failed to remove the Ottoman suppressors in 1821, because we were too-Greek like in our thinking and not Cypriot-like enough to succeed?

So Grivas, our Greek trained General ..... was part of this pinnacle of stupidity, because he led the removal of the Brits?

Your struggle to comprehend what I’ve been saying; and you’d be hard pressed to find anyone who writes as clearly as I do, is testimony that you’re not as intelligent as you think and history/politics isn’t your forte.

Fine! ... So far you have failed to discredit any historical evidence from Paphitis, then you failed to discredit logical reasoning along ethnic lines by Piratis, and now you cannot answer my simple questions!

Back to the drawing board for you methinks!