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Halting Turkey's EU Bid

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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:18 pm

humanist wrote:so why don't we then just return to the 1960's constitution for heaven's sakes that even gives you more than your porpotion in the whole of the population.

And if they ban Mosques and the Turkish languages then they are morons of the highest order.


Why leave the door open to such risks?
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Postby humanist » Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:21 pm

because like OH&S you cannot safeguard against everythingb :):):):):)
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:29 pm

humanist wrote:because like OH&S you cannot safeguard against everythingb :):):):):)


OH&S??? you can do you best to foresee any dangers and take the necessary steps not to expose yourself that's all we are trying to do and the harder you try to dismiss our concerns the more untrusting and suspicious we become.
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Postby Paphitis » Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:01 am

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. We should remind Turkey that Cyprus has veto powers to deny Turkey's entry into the EU. We should remind them that we are not afraid to use our veto against Turkey.

Mr Erdogan is now seeing the writing on the wall. He is slowly coming to terms with the fact that Cyprus does have a major weapon against his nation, which is struggling to survive economically.


What an idiotic delusional post. As if the only thing between turkey and the EU is Cyprus and that is what turkey is concerned about. France and Austraias public opposition and planned referendums for turkey accession of course are not an issue but its whether christofias will vote or not. The fact that any possible accession has a minimum timeframe of 10-15 years also is of course not an issue. In the past 2 years the issue of turkeys membership to the EU has been sidelined completely from turkeys rulings party agenda and is not an issue in domestic politics at all. So much so that the EU as a whole could not say anything when turkey carried out its one week invasion of N.iraq last winter as it knew it no longer had any leverage over turkey. As for your comment that the EU is going to change its energy plans to decrease its energy dependence on russia....LOL. Who made you america? Paphitis, in ten years time not one thing would have changed in Cyprus but your age, and i can still predict you ranting about the end of the TRNC and how turkey is doomed with your untouchable veto.


Looks like we have touched a nerve. :lol:

The biggest obstacle against Turkey's EU entry is Cyprus. You need to come to terms with this fact.

It must hurt you that Cypriots control your destiny. :lol:

Cypriots will determine whether you skint Turks will be eating rice or caviar for the next 50 years! 8)
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Postby humanist » Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:54 am

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OH&S??? you can do you best to foresee any dangers and take the necessary steps not to expose yourself that's all we are trying to do and the harder you try to dismiss our concerns the more untrusting and suspicious we become.



In a true democracy everyones rights are preserved, you guys want special treatment. The second obstacle to the process of unification is the fact that because of the Turkish occupation of 1/3 of Cypriot territory you believe that you have contro and management of your destiny. Those with enough personal integrity will agree with me that TC's do not have that. But those who cannot see beyong their noses live under the illussion that you guys are in control.

To this end we will never achieve unity and emocracy because a minority group denies the majority of their freedoms. I don't think the TC/ Turkish side allows room for anything.

We got cloe to some movement between you and I on the Cypro yesterday and then you withdrew once again about your concerns. The best way your future generations will achieve equality is through a unitary State based on democratic values, and as is the case in the US to hope that through the right policies, a TC child can hope to become a President of Cyprus.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:44 am

humanist wrote:VP
OH&S??? you can do you best to foresee any dangers and take the necessary steps not to expose yourself that's all we are trying to do and the harder you try to dismiss our concerns the more untrusting and suspicious we become.



In a true democracy everyones rights are preserved, you guys want special treatment. The second obstacle to the process of unification is the fact that because of the Turkish occupation of 1/3 of Cypriot territory you believe that you have contro and management of your destiny. Those with enough personal integrity will agree with me that TC's do not have that. But those who cannot see beyong their noses live under the illussion that you guys are in control.

To this end we will never achieve unity and emocracy because a minority group denies the majority of their freedoms. I don't think the TC/ Turkish side allows room for anything.

We got cloe to some movement between you and I on the Cypro yesterday and then you withdrew once again about your concerns. The best way your future generations will achieve equality is through a unitary State based on democratic values, and as is the case in the US to hope that through the right policies, a TC child can hope to become a President of Cyprus.


With an 80% GC electorate who would rather vote in a GC monkey then a TC I wouldnt hold my breath if I was you.
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Postby humanist » Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:12 am

well you will never know until you try

and I take it a ste further to suggest that in a united Cyprus there are no GC or TC political parties only socialist. communist, liberal, republican or democratic parties or whatever they want to call themselves and all Cypriots join a party of their preference.
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:06 am

Viewpoint wrote:Why dont you GCs go for it and tell Turkey to go to hell. You havent got the balls and dont want to lose your leverage.


:lol: :lol:

We have the balls and you know it.

Cyprus, Germany and France are the member nations that are holding up Turkey's EU entry. :lol:

I know that this must be difficult for you to swallow, but the sooner you come to terms with reality, the better. :lol:

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world ... 37a1b4139c

http://www.voicesnewspaper.com/modules. ... e&sid=2426

Just remember that the well being of 75,000,000 Turks depends on Cyprus. We will use our veto if need be, and there is nothing you can do about it.

Turkey could withdrawal her application for entry into the EU if it wants to nullify any leverage you think we might have. :lol: We don't care if you do, because your occupation has an expiry date, just like all others in the past. :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:18 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Why dont you GCs go for it and tell Turkey to go to hell. You havent got the balls and dont want to lose your leverage.


:lol: :lol:

We have the balls and you know it.

Cyprus, Germany and France are the member nations that are holding up Turkey's EU entry. :lol:

I know that this must be difficult for you to swallow, but the sooner you come to terms with reality, the better. :lol:

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world ... 37a1b4139c

http://www.voicesnewspaper.com/modules. ... e&sid=2426

Just remember that the well being of 75,000,000 Turks depends on Cyprus. We will use our veto if need be, and there is nothing you can do about it.

Turkey could withdrawal her application for entry into the EU if it wants to nullify any leverage you think we might have. :lol: We don't care if you do, because your occupation has an expiry date, just like all others in the past. :lol:


I have expressed my views on Turkeys EU bid so you should fear losing your leverage not me as without it you will have absolutely no chance of making Turkey compromise on the Cyprus issue. The EU is not the end of world life goes on even without it and Turkey will understand this as the larger countries will use the GCs to bring Turkeys bid to a close.
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Postby DT. » Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:04 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:VP
OH&S??? you can do you best to foresee any dangers and take the necessary steps not to expose yourself that's all we are trying to do and the harder you try to dismiss our concerns the more untrusting and suspicious we become.



In a true democracy everyones rights are preserved, you guys want special treatment. The second obstacle to the process of unification is the fact that because of the Turkish occupation of 1/3 of Cypriot territory you believe that you have contro and management of your destiny. Those with enough personal integrity will agree with me that TC's do not have that. But those who cannot see beyong their noses live under the illussion that you guys are in control.

To this end we will never achieve unity and emocracy because a minority group denies the majority of their freedoms. I don't think the TC/ Turkish side allows room for anything.

We got cloe to some movement between you and I on the Cypro yesterday and then you withdrew once again about your concerns. The best way your future generations will achieve equality is through a unitary State based on democratic values, and as is the case in the US to hope that through the right policies, a TC child can hope to become a President of Cyprus.


With an 80% GC electorate who would rather vote in a GC monkey then a TC I wouldnt hold my breath if I was you.


the fact that you've convinced yourself that 82% of the population can only come up with a monkey because they are GC's and the 18% is only compromised of political Einsteins is more worrying.
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