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[Viewpoint]

Never under estimate the Turks and Turkish Cypriots you did this in 1974 and paid the price. You have to compromise just like we do and the only viable solution has been 2 parts north and south all we have to do is agree the rights each individual has in those states allowing the people the right to choose which state they wish to live in.

You take your 18% which you have a right to and build 9 meter tall walls so you can't come across the south and I personally do not have a problem

Please provide examples where the population ratios determine the land split???

[humanist]

so what you are saying VP is that you will allow every CG's refugee to return to the north, give them their properties back and allow them to live under the current administration as will be encompassed within a BBF model. Will you allow them to have equal political power? by this I mean will you allow them to join any political party of their choosing and allow them to seat in parliament if they have been voted by th people?

[Viewpoint]

so what you are saying VP is that you will allow every CG's refugee to return to the north, give them their properties back and allow them to live under the current administration as will be encompassed within a BBF model. Will you allow them to have equal political power? by this I mean will you allow them to join any political party of their choosing and allow them to seat in parliament if they have been voted by th people?

YES, because I feel GCs would rather sell up in the north or receive compensation and stay south rather than live under a TC administration they feel more strongly than we do about not want to live under a GC admin.

[humanist]

well put that proposition forth and ensure that your proven discriminatory administration will allow for that to happen and lets see what happens.

to get it right you are suggesting that under a BBF you will agree to all GC's to move to the north state of the Federal Republic of Cyprus, allow them the return of their property at least their homes with land exchange of compensation if they so choose, allow them to have equal rights representation and participation in any political party and if elected by the majority in a fair democratic election can take up seat in parlaiment>

Despite the fact that if they all returned you will continue to be a minority in that State?

[Viewpoint]

well put that proposition forth and ensure that your proven discriminatory administration will allow for that to happen and lets see what happens.

to get it right you are suggesting that under a BBF you will agree to all GC's to move to the north state of the Federal Republic of Cyprus, allow them the return of their property at least their homes with land exchange of compensation if they so choose, allow them to have equal rights representation and participation in any political party and if elected by the majority in a fair democratic election can take up seat in parlaiment>

Despite the fact that if they all returned you will continue to be a minority in that State?

I personally would agree to such an arrangement as I am confident that the GCs would not return and the TCs would represent the majority in the north state, but which safe guard would you put in place to ensure that TCs would not be over run by GC underhandedness to overpopulate the north just to take control of the whole island? The safety net could be the number of TC votes required to pass certain laws?

[humanist]

hey it was your recomendation, you come up with the safeguard.

[Viewpoint]

hey it was your recomendation, you come up with the safeguard.

I just did, the votes necessary to pass laws will put the safety net in place.

[humanist]

that still discriminates against the rest of the population of that north state, regardless of who they are GC's or alliens and that is where the problem lies.

[Viewpoint]

that still discriminates against the rest of the population of that north state, regardless of who they are GC's or alliens and that is where the problem lies.

Proportional representation with fixed minimum voting on sensative issues is not racist, its a safeguard to ensure that the majority do not pass laws like banning mosques or doing away with the Turkish language.

[humanist]

so why don't we then just return to the 1960's constitution for heaven's sakes that even gives you more than your porpotion in the whole of the population.

And if they ban Mosques and the Turkish languages then they are morons of the highest order.