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Halting Turkey's EU Bid

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Postby CopperLine » Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:12 pm

Kifeas,
I don't like resorting to abuse, but your response to my posting is that of an idiot.

The website/pages www.europa.eu....... are the pages of the EU. Full stop.

I made no comment about the EU's language or recognition or anything else. Tim Drayton and a couple of others had asked questions about the negotiation or accession timetable for Turkey (not Cyprus) and I provided, from the official EU information 'gateway', the answers and links to those questions.

By some crazy fantasising you accuse me of deliberately misleading people. Idiot.

The only specific link- which was meant as an 'incidentally while your looking at those pages on Turkish negotiations, Cyprus Forum readers, you might want to look at EU and northern Cyprus' kind of helpfulness - that I gave to northern Cyprus was one which was actually headed
The purpose of this communication is to put forward measures promoting economic development in the northern part of Cyprus and bringing it closer to the European Union
. In short hand, instead of writing "measures promoting economic development in the northern part of Cyprus" I simply wrote "EU position on supporting northern Cyprus". You say tomato, I say tomato. I made no other reference to Cyprus, no reference to recognition, no reference to language used or not used, no reference to EU policy on Cyprus.

So out of nothing Kifeas you make some gigantic, speculative, fictional and idiotic statement. For what purpose ? Is your life so empty that you need to make comment on the utterly trivial, and on top of that invent a whole load of nonsense. Idiot.
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Postby CopperLine » Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:28 pm

Whilst I'm at it - here' some more from the EU's official informatin gateway. The link I gave to a one page statement uses the following descriptions of X :

northern part of Cyprus


northern section of the island


Northern Cyprus


Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus


northern part of the island


Turkish Cypriot community



Not my words - although I happened casually to use the phrase 'northern Cyprus' (without a capital letter for northern, unlike the EU statement. Does the EU's use of a capital N for Northern Cyprus imply iminenent recognition, or just that the sky will fall in and the world will fall of its' axis, Kifeas ? Should it be me or the EU official who should be flogged for this typographical crime against all that is true and good about Cyprus ?
So six different ways of describing northern Cyprus in just one official EU communique.

What's your problem Kifeas ? Don't you know what or where we're talking about ?
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Postby Oracle » Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:36 pm

Yeah it must be hard to name something that doesn't exist :?
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Postby MrH » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:06 pm

Not really Copperline - the GCs are still living in the past.

To them, it's the "Occupied Zone" - Even the EU doesn't refer to NORTHERN CYPRUS as that - it only appears to be a GC term for Northern Cyprus.

Recognition here we come then!
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Postby Kifeas » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:32 pm

CopperLine wrote:Kifeas,
I don't like resorting to abuse, but your response to my posting is that of an idiot.

The website/pages www.europa.eu....... are the pages of the EU. Full stop.

I made no comment about the EU's language or recognition or anything else. Tim Drayton and a couple of others had asked questions about the negotiation or accession timetable for Turkey (not Cyprus) and I provided, from the official EU information 'gateway', the answers and links to those questions.

By some crazy fantasising you accuse me of deliberately misleading people. Idiot.

The only specific link- which was meant as an 'incidentally while your looking at those pages on Turkish negotiations, Cyprus Forum readers, you might want to look at EU and northern Cyprus' kind of helpfulness - that I gave to northern Cyprus was one which was actually headed
The purpose of this communication is to put forward measures promoting economic development in the northern part of Cyprus and bringing it closer to the European Union
. In short hand, instead of writing "measures promoting economic development in the northern part of Cyprus" I simply wrote "EU position on supporting northern Cyprus". You say tomato, I say tomato. I made no other reference to Cyprus, no reference to recognition, no reference to language used or not used, no reference to EU policy on Cyprus.

So out of nothing Kifeas you make some gigantic, speculative, fictional and idiotic statement. For what purpose ? Is your life so empty that you need to make comment on the utterly trivial, and on top of that invent a whole load of nonsense. Idiot.


Copper, I perfectly understand how embarrassing it is for someone to be unveiled and exposed for what he is disguisedly trying to achieve, which is why I am not upset with your anger towards me.

You continue though to mislead the forum that the EU recognizes some sort of entity in Cyprus, other than the RoC with which it has signed the accession treaty for the whole island, and you continue trying to mislead people that there is some entity that is called "North Cyprus" or "TRNC;" by insisting the website you quoted is reflecting the official views of the EU, when in itself there is a disclosure telling you the exact opposite!

If the above website is "the official EU information 'gateway'," as you claim, then what is this link here, from the same website:

Do not be angry, Copper, just try to do your job better the next time, since you now know that kifeas is here and after you. I have exposed you in the past, and I will do so in the future, because I know what propaganda you are trying to serve here!
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Postby CopperLine » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:36 pm

Whatever, fantasyman.

Yawn.
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Postby Kifeas » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:40 pm

CopperLine wrote:Whatever, fantasyman.

Yawn.


If the above website is "the official EU information 'gateway'," as you claim, then what is this link here, from the same website?
Important legal notice.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby kurupetos » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:54 pm

MrH wrote:Not really Copperline - the GCs are still living in the past.

To them, it's the "Occupied Zone" - Even the EU doesn't refer to NORTHERN CYPRUS as that - it only appears to be a GC term for Northern Cyprus.

Recognition here we come then!


Bravo! Now go ahead and start counting the countries that recognised you! :lol:
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Postby Nikitas » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:58 pm

Living in the past! You have a nerve!

A puppet state that has been under constant military occupation by a foreign country, where there is a statue of Kemal in every village, every school, every official building, his photos are plastered everywhere in a frenzy of a stalinist personality cult and you accuse the GCs of living in the past!

Grow up! And then wake up!
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:13 am

Do you GCs understand that even a TRNC unrecognized with 1000 times more problems is a zillions times better than living in a GC state?
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