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[MrH]

At last, some substance on this forum!

Good point Bananiot. Bi-zonality, Bi-communal and Political Equility!

However, and judging by the response from the GCs, they'll be legalising the Partition, occupation and etc - what a load of rubbish.

It's an agreement we are after ladies and gentlemen and not an explanation of historical, one-sided events. The Partition of the island, at that time in particular, was a must - Does conflict not ring a bell?

Today, we have a different platform, period! We are searching, and agreed by all international parties, for an agreement that hopefully synchronises all concerns.

Otherwise it will be partition. If the GCs do not wish to SHARE the island under an equal footing, then partition is going to happen, regardless.

The Gcs must realise that an agreement, at the very least, outside the parameters of the former Annan Plan will never be accepted by us Turkish Cypriots. Our sensitivities will always be maintained - the long-standing unresolved Cyprus issue is evidence of that. I would rather remain as we are than to sign a deal that falls short of the main principals asked by Turkiye!

Get Real GCs!

[Paphitis]

Simple, if the two component states have equal status then each component state wil exercise its authority (within the limits agreed in the constitution) and its territorial boundaries.

Stop making a fool of yourself Oracle.

Thanks for the answer.

However, this does not answer my question. All states within a Federation are normally of equal status. But they do not have the same political power within the Federal Parliament.

For example, a state with a population of 5 million can not possibly have equal representation Federally, as a state with a population of 1 million.

A more proportional democratic formula needs to be implemented, otherwise you are unfairly discriminating against the majority.

So how does this so called BBF solution impact on Federal Governance?

And by BBF, I certainly hope you are not advocating a loose Confederacy formed by Virgin Birth entities that replace The Republic of Cyprus?

[Paphitis]

At last, some substance on this forum!

Good point Bananiot. Bi-zonality, Bi-communal and Political Equility!

However, and judging by the response from the GCs, they'll be legalising the Partition, occupation and etc - what a load of rubbish.

It's an agreement we are after ladies and gentlemen and not an explanation of historical, one-sided events. The Partition of the island, at that time in particular, was a must - Does conflict not ring a bell?

Today, we have a different platform, period! We are searching, and agreed by all international parties, for an agreement that hopefully synchronises all concerns.

Otherwise it will be partition. If the GCs do not wish to SHARE the island under an equal footing, then partition is going to happen, regardless.

The Gcs must realise that an agreement, at the very least, outside the parameters of the former Annan Plan will never be accepted by us Turkish Cypriots. Our sensitivities will always be maintained - the long-standing unresolved Cyprus issue is evidence of that. I would rather remain as we are than to sign a deal that falls short of the main principals asked by Turkiye!

Get Real GCs!

There is no way the GC electorate are going to be presented with a solution full of YOUR ILLEGAL demands.

I suggest you do not get your hopes up. The pendulum is slowly but surely swinging. And it starts with Obama and finishes with the EU.

And do not expect any recognition in the short term or long term. Instead expect increased international pressure upon Turkey to act as a responsible international citizen.

[Piratis]

You can't blackmail us to accept your terms my friend. Haven't you realized this yet?

Eqaulity = equality of citizens. We will accept no racist discrimination, segregation or apartheid just to make your dreams of stealing part of our island true.

If you want partition, then enjoy it as you have enjoyed it for the last 34 years because it will not last forever. Partition will not get much better for you, and it definitely has an expiration date since what goes around comes around and you should be 1000% certain that we will not gift to you the lands we have been living for 3500 years.

Form the first result in Google when you search for Political Equality:

By political equality we refer to the extent to which citizens have an equal voice over governmental decisions. One of the bedrock principles in a democracy is the equal consideration of the preferences and interests of all citizens. This is expressed in such principles as one-person/one-vote, equality before the law, and equal rights of free speech.

http://www.hks.harvard.edu/inequality/S ... /Verba.pdf

The above is the political equality I want. Not the racist discrimination based on ethnicity which creates inequality among citizens, which is what you want.

[Oracle]

... and I think Obama would agree with Piratis!

[Piratis]

... and I think Obama would agree with Piratis!

If the Turks didn't manage to get a recognition with Bush and in the months after the Annan plan, then they can totally forget about it now.

Before the Annan plan I predicted that Azerbaijan and maybe Pakistan could recognize the pseudo state if we had rejected the Annan plan. Apparently I was too pessimistic.

[Piratis]

I would rather remain as we are than to sign a deal that falls short of the main principals asked by Turkiye!

And that is how you will remain, for as long as you have the power to enforce the illegality. But not a second longer.

[wallace]

At last, some substance on this forum!

Good point Bananiot. Bi-zonality, Bi-communal and Political Equility!

However, and judging by the response from the GCs, they'll be legalising the Partition, occupation and etc - what a load of rubbish.

It's an agreement we are after ladies and gentlemen and not an explanation of historical, one-sided events. The Partition of the island, at that time in particular, was a must - Does conflict not ring a bell?

Today, we have a different platform, period! We are searching, and agreed by all international parties, for an agreement that hopefully synchronises all concerns.

Otherwise it will be partition. If the GCs do not wish to SHARE the island under an equal footing, then partition is going to happen, regardless.

The Gcs must realise that an agreement, at the very least, outside the parameters of the former Annan Plan will never be accepted by us Turkish Cypriots. Our sensitivities will always be maintained - the long-standing unresolved Cyprus issue is evidence of that. I would rather remain as we are than to sign a deal that falls short of the main principals asked by Turkiye!
Get Real GCs!

You've got nothing to say as TC's. GC's care more for your wellfare then your so loved Turkey. Turkey calls the shots here. You are a minority in your own pseudo state and still don't realise it.

[Get Real!]

I think we can all agree for a bizonal, bicommunal Cyprus made up of two component states with political equality of the two communities.

I don't think so...

[MrH]

Get Real!

You've got no choice!

It's that or Partitition, take your pick.