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[Viewpoint]

Do I really come across that bad?

Well lets put it this way I would not want you as a neighbour.

You're the second person who’s ever told me that…

So there must be some truth in it, as you come accross as a nasty piece work no one would want to expose themselves to you let alone their children.

[Get Real!]

Do I really come across that bad?

Well lets put it this way I would not want you as a neighbour.

You're the second person who’s ever told me that…

So there must be some truth in it, as you come accross as a nasty piece work no one would want to expose themselves to you let alone their children.

Maybe I should've mentioned that the first was my wife!

[Viewpoint]

Do I really come across that bad?

Well lets put it this way I would not want you as a neighbour.

You're the second person who’s ever told me that…

So there must be some truth in it, as you come accross as a nasty piece work no one would want to expose themselves to you let alone their children.

Maybe I should've mentioned that the first was my wife!

She must be a good judge of character as she is the one that knew you better than us and even she did not want to live next door to you let alone in the same house.

[Get Real!]

Do I really come across that bad?

Well lets put it this way I would not want you as a neighbour.

You're the second person who’s ever told me that…

So there must be some truth in it, as you come accross as a nasty piece work no one would want to expose themselves to you let alone their children.

Maybe I should've mentioned that the first was my wife!

She must be a good judge of character as she is the one that knew you better than us and even she did not want to live next door to you let alone in the same house.

We're still together VP; she wants me here next to her and not as her neighbor…

[AWE]

Back to the subject at hand.

Cyprus is only likely to be united when Turkey is ready to join the EU which is some 10 years away at best but most likely longer.

Unless the current talks can come up with a governance agreement and in particular how the presidency of any United Cyprus Republic is formed.

There are two broad options:

1) If it is a individual forming policy then Turkey cannot guarantee that at some time in the future a GC president will not veto Turkey's EU bid out of spite/fear/hatred (see PapaD and his vote in the EU against Cyprus interests regarding Chinese shoes).

2) If a Presidential committee then TC input is guaranteed and Turkey is unlikely to face a Cyprus veto.

So if Turkey does not get what it wants here it can put a stop to the whole process by not giving ground on property, settlers, military elements of any plan so forcing the GCs to vote against in any referendum.

Cyprus unification then gets put on hold until Turkey is further along its EU road, assuming that the Turkish population want to join the EU in 10 or more years time, if not then no unification.

[Get Real!]

Cyprus unification then gets put on hold until Turkey is further along its EU road, assuming that the Turkish population want to join the EU in 10 or more years time, if not then no unification.

In 10 years there'll be nothing to unify with...

[repulsewarrior]

Cyprus will be united as one when we understand the principal of Bicommunality, meaning:

one State where all citizens as Individuals are equals without ethnic distinctions, each voting in an equal and identical fashion.

while having as Persons, another level of governance, two (or more) National Assemblies where as Communities they can sustain themselves as majorities within a territorial Jurisdiction made up of components (Bizonal) in which minorities have equal voting rights and are given their recognition by the fulfillment of their needs as well.

Cyprus, one country; two levels of government, three [(or more) i.e. Maronites and/or Armenians] governing bodies.

[DT.]

the problem is that there is a threat hanging over us that if we do not agree this time, then there will be a gradual taiwanisation of the north.

Had we had a national council with some imagination in it then we should have turned the tables on this and turned Turkey into the threatened one. I'll explain.....

If the north gets recognised it would be the worst possible outcome for Turkey.

Greece and Cyprus join in a united front with no motive whatsoever to allow either of the turkish states to join the EU.

A Greek garrison gets posted permanently in the south 70 miles form Turkey, the south changes its name to The hellenic Republic of Cyprus and all Pan-Cyprian encompassing policies get dropped with a 9ft high wall positioned on the green line.

Meanwhile the north now permanently out of the EU and "independent" of Turkey will still have to be provided with handouts from Turkey, probably indefinitely.

- Turkey will lose any bargaining chips it has in the Eastern Med and all Cypriot continental shelf rights it so vigorously demands.
- Cyprus will be fortified like Israel, since it now has a direct border with an unfriendly nation. If the S300 scenario would be repeated this time there would be no leverage of the international community over the Cypriot govt to remove these missiles. meaning that we could basically station any military system we like 70 miles off the coast of Turkey.
- Turkey would now be "choked" in the Aegean by Greece and by Cyprus in the south. A strong Cypriot navy would take full advantage of its position.

Concluding, the threat should be to Turkey" If we don't agree something acceptable to both sides then you're gonna have a new neighbour off your south coast."

[humanist]

well sounds like te TC's better do something about saving themselves from a non EU entry ever. More importantly save themselves from extinction.

[EPSILON]

can any body tell me how long we have to wait untill the 2 govermint became ass one .

Do you mean the 2 governments to became one? if yes which two governments. There is only 1 government in Cyprus!!!!

erm! Who is your government in South is exactly negotiating with now? You keep on living in denial, and there will be fuck all in terms of a solution ever!

As for the post itself, I completely agree that the two governments will eventually give birth to a perfect ASS!

We are just negotiating with the Muchtar of the minority!!!!who of course acting under the orders and guides of the chief of staff of the Turkish army in Cyprus.