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[BirKibrisli]

Hope the light will not change back to Red???
We might have another True Cypriot-in- the- making...
Tell Miltiades his Club is growing fast...I will be the caretaker in his absence,but he should hurry back << quote

Don't worry I'm proud to be Cypriot.. I did not realise how much damage they did to our island until I went to the occupied area recently.. and Turkey tells many lies to brain wash people..

There will be a protest against the occupying army in London soon. Many people - all Cypriots (mc, gc,tc).. are going. I hope it will be crowdy. Let people know our cause. Free Cyprus.

I hope the experience wasn't too traumatic for you ,Nil..
When I was last in the North,back in 1999,I was advised not to go and visit my old house and street at night,because it was too dangerous for any TC to walk around the old walled part of Nicosia...I didn't take that advice and fortunately I am here to tell the story. But what I saw made me so sad and distressed that I have not been back since...people tell me it is much worse now in 2008...

[BirKibrisli]

But, I doubt anything will be achieved.

PS. to the poster of this topic.. Did you realise this was a CYPRUS forum? NOT a Turkish forum. Turkey has done enough damage to Cyprus already.

Too shifty

Goes to show lightning can strike at any time,Oracle...
There is hope for you yet...

[xxNilxx]

When I was last in the North,back in 1999,I was advised not to go and visit my old house and street at night,because it was too dangerous for any TC to walk around the old walled part of Nicosia...I didn't take that advice and fortunately I am here to tell the story. But what I saw made me so sad and distressed that I have not been back since...people tell me it is much worse now in 2008... << quote

I know... I didn't know much about Cyprus then just what the videos you see on the net etc I feel ashamed for things I said now I just didn't know that much - but after Cyprus and those biocommunial stuff I learn a lot.

In 2008 it's much worse BirKibrisli - there is Turks (karasakals) everywhere. Not a Cypriot to be seen in site. WE ARE COMPLETELY OUTNUMBERED - they must be well over 250-300 000!

Our eyes was wondering around just to see at least one Cypriot.
In the beaches of Kerynia they go into Cypriot waters wearing their shalvars , not to mention they're complete perverts they completely make you feel uncomfortable.. what annoyed me the most is they're living in our country and yet still call our people lazy, selfish etc.. and attack the TsCs you try hard for peace - it was only 2 months back they brutally attacked those 4 boys because they wrote Turkish troops out of Cyprus. They've completely ruined and destroyed any Cypriot aspect in the occupied area - thank god there is still some Cypriot villages left.
All the TsCs are moving from the occupied area one by one, I think if it carries on like this gradually there will be an extinction to the TsCs in Cyprus.

[xxNilxx]

occupied area of the RoC*

[BirKibrisli]

When I was last in the North,back in 1999,I was advised not to go and visit my old house and street at night,because it was too dangerous for any TC to walk around the old walled part of Nicosia...I didn't take that advice and fortunately I am here to tell the story. But what I saw made me so sad and distressed that I have not been back since...people tell me it is much worse now in 2008... << quote

I know... I didn't know much about Cyprus then just what the videos you see on the net etc I feel ashamed for things I said now I just didn't know that much - but after Cyprus and those biocommunial stuff I learn a lot.

In 2008 it's much worse BirKibrisli - there is Turks (karasakals) everywhere. Not a Cypriot to be seen in site. WE ARE COMPLETELY OUTNUMBERED - they must be well over 250-300 000!

Our eyes was wondering around just to see at least one Cypriot.
In the beaches of Kerynia they go into Cypriot waters wearing their shalvars , not to mention they're complete perverts they completely make you feel uncomfortable.. what annoyed me the most is they're living in our country and yet still call our people lazy, selfish etc.. and attack the TsCs you try hard for peace - it was only 2 months back they brutally attacked those 4 boys because they wrote Turkish troops out of Cyprus. They've completely ruined and destroyed any Cypriot aspect in the occupied area - thank god there is still some Cypriot villages left.
All the TsCs are moving from the occupied area one by one, I think if it carries on like this gradually there will be an extinction to the TsCs in Cyprus.

My information is ,Nil,that there are at least 500,000 people in the trnc at the moment,of which only about 80,000 are real TCs...I can feel your shock,but please try not to be too harsh on the other victims of this conflict,which are the settlers...It is not their fault really if they are totally out of their depth,socially,culturally,economically etc in Cyprus...The real blame is on the likes of Denktash and those Turkish politicians who practised 'Let the TCs go if they don't like it here,we have plenty of "better Turks" to replace them with' policy for decades...
Good luck with the protests,but you are right,it will change nothing..Within 25 years,if a unified solution cannot be found,the only traces of TC culture and identity will remain in the South and in the diaspora,with people like yourself...Make sure you teach your kids TC Turkish and TC culture and identity,before it is too late. Our GC brothers and sisters too will rue the day the TCs became extinct,because they will have to deal exclusively with these "new" TCs for eternity...

[Tim Drayton]

I noted with interest that CyBC's news in English yesterday evening devoted quite lengthy coverage to this anniversary, with footage of political leaders visiting Ataturk's mausoleum. The commentary had a positive tone, and Ataturk was described in glowing terms as the man who created the modern, secular Turkish state out of the ashes of the Ottoman Empire. Am I reading too much into this, or could this presage a thaw in relations between Cyprus and Turkey?

I also noted that the news in Turkish, which followed, did not carry this story at all. Perhaps they assumed that this would all be common knowledge to Turkish speakers.

[Nikitas]

Tim,

It is common to see documentaries and reports on Attaturk on Greek and Cypriot media. I am guessing that the Greek accounts are more factual than the Turkish ones. There were several interviews broadcast some time ago on Greek tv with people who had met Attaturk in person. Those were the most interesting accounts.

[Nikitas]

Bir said:

"My information is ,Nil,that there are at least 500,000 people in the trnc at the moment,of which only about 80,000 are real TCs..."

Bir, where would all these people be housed? The number does not ring true. If we calculate that 200 000 GCs vacated the north, then there would be enough room for as many people to be brought in. On the other hand, there are many abandoned villages in the north, showing that the place is not filled to the brim.

I do not doubt that TCs are now outnumbered but that is not the same as saying that there are 500 000 people in the north.

The irony these days is that the old city of Nicosia has been abandoned by its former inhabitants. The south is inhabited mostly by immigrant workers and the north by settlers. And the armies of both sides are carefully monitoring the dividing line with the multinational UN force in the middle. These were the neighborhoods so bitterly fought over in 1958 and 1963!

[Tim Drayton]

Tim,

It is common to see documentaries and reports on Attaturk on Greek and Cypriot media. I am guessing that the Greek accounts are more factual than the Turkish ones. There were several interviews broadcast some time ago on Greek tv with people who had met Attaturk in person. Those were the most interesting accounts.

All I can say is that I have been a regular viewer of the CyBC's news broadcasts in English (and Turkish) for the past four years or so. A fair amount of coverage is given to news from Turkey, but I have always detected a negative undertone in these reports. However, yesterday evening's report on the anniversary of Ataturk's death had a very different feel to it. As I say, I merely note this with interest. Perhaps one should not go so far as to regard the CyBC as being a kind of Stalinist propaganda machine which, if deconstructed correctly, can provide subtle clues as to pending policy shifts.

[Get Real!]

My information is ,Nil,that there are at least 500,000 people in the trnc at the moment,of which only about 80,000 are real TCs...

I haven’t come across any credible evidence to back the 400,000 illegal settlers figure you claim but more like 180,000.