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[detailer]

Papadopulos is playing a very dangerous game in my opinion.

TRNC was accepted as illegal or whatever.But I think until now, greeks accepted selected president in TRNC as the leader of TC.

Papadopulos tries to change this and ignore Talat, and take Turkey as the subject. I believe that more than 90% of TC are deeply hurt by this. Maybe he is doing something right for GC but he is gaining hatred from TC in the large scale as well

I would like to learn everyone's opininon about that but especially TC since I am making an assumption about their opinions.

[magikthrill]

Just because papadopoulos takes the matters with turkey this doesnt mean he doesnt recognize talat as the leader of the TCs. Turkey is the perpetrator of current conflict.

nonetheless, you are right that he does not gain the support of TCs by blatantly showing that the TC leader is merely Turkey's pet dog.

[Main_Source]

Whats new....Cyprus doesnt recognise 'TRNC'. How would expect them to do so...thats like accepting the invasion as legal.

Maybe Talat should resign as leader of the pseudo state and take charge of vice presidency of RoC. Then he would be the official leader of TC in the RoC.

[brother]

We all seem to forget that talat is the leader elected leader of tc and whatever tassos does or does not accept is a mere small detail and eventually he will sit down with talat if he is interested in sorting out the cyprus problem wether he likes it or not.


But for your information the tc do find tassos behaviour dismall and the fact that they do not like the terrorist turned leader anyway his current actions are seen as not wanting reunification.

[garbitsch]

You're right Bro'. Papadopoulos has no support amongst Turkish Cypriots. After all of those declarations that no T.Cs killed btw 63-74, and knowing he was one of the authors of Akritas plan, he definitely needs to show some good will towards Turkish Cypriots. Otherwise, we will always see him the Greek Cypriot version of Denktas.

[brother]

You see a lot of the older TC remember him as the right arm of Grivas and know his involvement in the Akritas plan, but many would argue that was a long time ago and he has changed but i ask "changed to what" from where i am standing he has changed into a power hungry vulture who constantly lies and has some very absurd ideas of the realities of the past and his current stance of not ackwoledging our elected leader Talat and refusing to sit down for negotiations only enforce the older TC views on him, and lets not forget a lot of younger tc respect their elders opinion and are also coming to the same conclusion about him.

This person will stick a bigger wedge between the communities because of his actions.

[Piratis]

You see a lot of the older TC remember him as the right arm of Grivas and know his involvement in the Akritas plan

Brainwashing can make you "remember" anything, even things that never happen. One thing is for sure: you can not remember him as the right arm of Grivas, because this never happened. What you can, is to imagine him in this way because of what the anti-papadopoulos propaganda convinced you.

What is funny is that Papadopoulos is now associated with Grivas, while Cleredes, who founded the party were 90% of all the leading EOKA B members found refuge, is not!!

Papadopoulos was anti-Grivas and anti-EOKA B. These are the facts.

[brother]

You call it brainwashing we call it facts, there is some things we will never agree on piratis but you should accept that tassos is not whiter than white and he has played a major part in the cypob.

[detailer]

Just because papadopoulos takes the matters with turkey this doesnt mean he doesnt recognize talat as the leader of the TCs. Turkey is the perpetrator of current conflict.

nonetheless, you are right that he does not gain the support of TCs by blatantly showing that the TC leader is merely Turkey's pet dog.

magikthrill,

Talat has emerged from a very strong and old political tradition within TC whose first aim is to solve cyprus problem and live together with GC pecaefully.

But in a short time, he and his party moved to a very close position to the Denktas point. Now, you can say that Talat is another man of Turkey because that serves to your strategy but TC know vey well this change is because of Papadopulos and GC's unforunate support to his ideas.

[detailer]

You see a lot of the older TC remember him as the right arm of Grivas and know his involvement in the Akritas plan

Brainwashing can make you "remember" anything, even things that never happen. One thing is for sure: you can not remember him as the right arm of Grivas, because this never happened. What you can, is to imagine him in this way because of what the anti-papadopoulos propaganda convinced you.

What is funny is that Papadopoulos is now associated with Grivas, while Cleredes, who founded the party were 90% of all the leading EOKA B members found refuge, is not!!

Papadopoulos was anti-Grivas and anti-EOKA B. These are the facts.

Piratis,

Makarios Drusiotis doesnt really confirm what you are saying .

Nobody here said that clerides's past is white either but his ideas, behavior, speech against TC nowadays are milder (at least we hope so ) but we dont see the same from Papadopulos.