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Make-Up of the British Army in Cyprus .....

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Paphitis » Sun Nov 09, 2008 3:17 pm

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I did say that it was his opinion, and I will tend to agree with him as I dont see that his foul language is any worse than others have used.

He may have been in contact with Admin and then got banned permantly, how this came about only Miltiades and Admin will know. Perhaps the foul language was the last straw. If we would get Miltiades back, perhaps you could debate the issue. In your opinion has he been the worse offender?


I will have to disagree with you here. His language was not the strongest and in any case it is not any reason to have anyone banned permanently.

Prior to his initial ban, he was actively trolling my posts, and provoking me through the use of rather strong language. I did reply in kind, and this caused both Miltiades and I to be banned. Pantheman was also banned the following day. :roll: He should be man enough to accept responsibility for his actions and contact ADMIN immediately. He will then be allowed to participate in our debates.

As far as language is concerned, there have been worse members in the past. I can only think of Eric Dayi being worse than Miltiades. But there was no one worse at trolling. Miltiades takes the prize here.

The issue is that he refused to comply with ADMINs advise and rules. He immediately came back looking for another fight or to provoke me.

For heaven’s sake, tell him to use common sense and come back. This is ridiculous.



I suppose he can only come back if permitted by Admin. A life ban is a bit of over kill.I will try to contact him. Perhaps this will be alesso to all who resort to foul language and 'trolling' as you put it. Perhaps (without making excuses for him) he is linking you, rightly or wrongly) with the threatening phone calls he has received. He was very disturbed by these. I hope no forumers will stoop so low to make these phone calls he talks about.

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I did not make any phone calls to Miltiades. I am not that type of person. I will never degrade myself to that level.

I have better things to do than to call Miltiades. The guy did not worry me that much, but he was obviously obsessed with me. It is unfortunate for him to have received these phone calls, and I do not condone it 1 bit.

I am more than willing to place all my itemised phone bills up for scrutiny, because I feel that my name has been tarnished by wrongfully being linked to these phone calls. He should get legal advice about this matter as soon as possible.

I do think there are some forumers that would stoop that low, but not me.

Perhaps Miltiades can provide some details such as time and date of the alleged phone calls. I would be only too happy to then fax my phone bill accounts to ADMIN for closer scrutiny. I have 2 mobile phones and 1 landline. Willing to submit all accounts, and if it is proven that I made those phone calls, then I would accept a life ban as a rightful punishment.

His life ban, is not a life ban. All he needs to do is contact ADMIN. I guess ADMIN is just after some kind of assurance that Miltiades will comply with forum rules. I am positive that ADMIN will allow him back.
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Postby Nikitas » Sun Nov 09, 2008 3:21 pm

One more memory of those times. In 1957, under severe curfew in Famagusta, when we were locked in our houses throughout the day, not just at night, an incident took place right outside our house on 28th of October street about midday.

A young man is walking in the middle of the street, heading eastwards towards the area of Famagusta Hospital and the admin buildings. A dark blue police landrover pulls up and three soldiers jump out, two of them point their rifles at the man, the third points his rifle at the windows of the houses, making sure we are not going to intervene, while the GC policeman driver and another GC oficer get down and translate.

The young man explained that he was a male nurse at the hospital and has to report on duty, he is exempt from the curfew regulations. He shows his ID and hospital card. He explains that he has been expressly called for emergency duty. The three soldiers put in a few kicks and hits with their rifle butts, despite the attempts of the GC officers to dissuade them. When they are done they get back in the landrover and leave shouting back at the man "fucking Makarios". Rule Britania!
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Nov 09, 2008 3:22 pm

Bafidis, I was not accusing. I was saying that was why he was so upset. It was his suspicions not mine. I hope there is no misunderstanding on this issue. He was clearly distressed by these calls.
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Nov 09, 2008 3:24 pm

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denizaksulu wrote:Hi Talisker.

I have just received an e-mail from Miltiades. He states that his ban is POLITICALLY MOTIVATED and nothing to do with the 'alleged use of foul language'. We are all aware of the crassness of language used by other forumers. In his opinion His ban is due to his political views which do not fit in with the Cyprus Forums agenda. He specifically asked me to point this fact out. Had he been allowed on this forum it would be unlikely that he would be able to discuss the issues you refer to above without being censured again. This is 'FREE SPEECH' at its best. Not. The use of foul language was a red herring.

I too have been subject to foul language in the past week. What did Admin do?

Regards

Hi Deniz,

I'd like Admin to confirm or deny this - Miltiades is making a serious allegation here. I don't have the time to follow all the threads, but did see a lot of foul language being posted. I'm not aware of anyone being banned before for their political views - so we need clarification that this has not happened to Miltiades.

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Well all I can say is are we being banned for life for foul language or other allegations as made by Bafidis? If the 'trolling' was responsible as Bafidis alleges, in his (Milti's) he was under duress due to the threatening phone calls.

In the end, we have to abide with the rules of the Admin. Let us all learn from our errors. I dont think I would make a good defence lawyer. :roll:


It was not about the trolling. I merely mentioned it because Miltiades had made it his mission to have me removed from the forum. ADMIN had warned us both about foul language. We both contravened the warnings. Hence we were both banned. Miltiades received a longer ban because he had received warnings before.

Miltiades then came back and immediately started a thread which was specifically having a dig against the Forum and myself. ADMIN had no choice but to lock the thread. I was also warned to make no replies. I obeyed this advice. ADMIN also banned Miltiades as he did not want a repeat of what had happened 2 weeks earlier. ADMIN also mentioned that Miltiades can come back if he chooses to contact him. Simple as that. :roll:
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:51 pm

denizaksulu wrote:I have just received an e-mail from Miltiades. He states that his ban is POLITICALLY MOTIVATED and nothing to do with the 'alleged use of foul language'. We are all aware of the crassness of language used by other forumers. In his opinion His ban is due to his political views which do not fit in with the Cyprus Forums agenda.

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Postby Floda » Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:20 pm

Get Real! wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:I have just received an e-mail from Miltiades. He states that his ban is POLITICALLY MOTIVATED and nothing to do with the 'alleged use of foul language'. We are all aware of the crassness of language used by other forumers. In his opinion His ban is due to his political views which do not fit in with the Cyprus Forums agenda.

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May I join you in your merriment Get Real ?, your emoticon sums the situation up nicely. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby purdey » Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:42 pm

Back on topic, let's not forget who these so called thugs were. They were young men forced into the British Army under National Service. 6 weeks maximum training and then posted to Cyprus to serve with the regulars who were there in limited numbers.
As for the polite Scottish Regiments, I fear even the Regiment would prefer a different tag, in my experience and that of history the Scottish Regiments were and are amongst the most feared in the world and carried out most of their duties with little or no mercy, Cyprus included.
I had the honour of paying my respects and marching with serving, ex servicemen and women from the commonwealth today among them Cypriots proudly wearing their British Army, British Navy, RAF caps and medals.
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Postby SSBubbles » Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:17 pm

purdey wrote:Back on topic, let's not forget who these so called thugs were. They were young men forced into the British Army under National Service. 6 weeks maximum training and then posted to Cyprus to serve with the regulars who were there in limited numbers.
As for the polite Scottish Regiments, I fear even the Regiment would prefer a different tag, in my experience and that of history the Scottish Regiments were and are amongst the most feared in the world and carried out most of their duties with little or no mercy, Cyprus included.
I had the honour of paying my respects and marching with serving, ex servicemen and women from the commonwealth today among them Cypriots proudly wearing their British Army, British Navy, RAF caps and medals.



I was at Happy Valley Remembrance Service today and I was very moved to say the least. It is so different being part of it as opposed to watching a service on television. :(
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Postby Talisker » Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:20 pm

British army training is the best in the world............

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ol5Dfs7jqFI
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Postby BirKibrisli » Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:03 am

I want to openly state I am distressed by what has happened to Miltiades...Everybody makes mistakes,and nobody deserves to be punished for eternity...We are all here because we love our homeland passionately,and we want to contribute what we can to the solving of this Problem, which has caused so much pain and suffering for so many people for so long...Militades' views are one of the least offending in the entire Forum...The way he was hounded by certain people here was despicable...And as Deniz points out his language was not any worse than his hounders...I feel it is up to Admin to approach Miltiades and smooth his passage back...And I know that Admin is a very reasonable person...So I hope we will see Miltiades amongst us real soon...
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