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Make-Up of the British Army in Cyprus .....

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Postby Floda » Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:59 pm

The brutality of the British (Black and Tans) is well documented and the ranks contained the dredges of humanity released from prisons etc, whether or not there were Scottish recruits among them is an irrelevance since they were wholly the scum of the earth.
Those who fell foul of their treatment in Ireland deserve much sympathy for their sufferings.

In Cyprus, the situation was somewhat different since the British were there much as they are to this day, those regiments which were staitioned here were posted for overseas duties, the persecution of the Cypriot population was seen as their 'Duty' and blind eyes were turned to any atrocities perpetrated by them.

As to the honesty of the Scots (in comparison to others) I cannot see any reason for there to be any significant difference other than, as individuals, the Scottish Regiments DO seem to carry a little more dignity with them than their English counterparts.

Or, could it be that bereft of pockets, the only way Scotsmen could conceal stolen goods was to 'Tuck 'em up your kilt Jock', a small handicap which acted as an assurance of honesty perhaps. :lol: :lol: :wink:
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Postby murf62 » Sat Nov 08, 2008 3:08 pm

Oracle wrote:So I start a topic requesting information and all you have done is post sexist comments ... :roll: and complain about others!


No, you started a topic to provoke argument, which is what every other one of your posts is aimed at.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 08, 2008 3:23 pm

murf62 wrote:
Oracle wrote:So I start a topic requesting information and all you have done is post sexist comments ... :roll: and complain about others!


No, you started a topic to provoke argument, which is what every other one of your posts is aimed at.

Of course the "argument" you're referring to is essentially a DEBATE because nobody can possibly get physical online!

I now ask you, what is the purpose of forums?

In the old days they were called “Bulletin Board Systems” (BBSs) because they mostly made announcements, some info, a few files, etc, but these days user interaction is everything so you should count your blessings that colorful people like Oracle exist to keep uncharismatic people like you entertained.

Say "thank you" to her and SHUT UP.
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Postby Floda » Sat Nov 08, 2008 3:33 pm

Get Real, very well put and absolutely 'Spot On !'. :wink:
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sat Nov 08, 2008 3:34 pm

My experience of the British soldiers in the late 50s was one of polite incompetence... Our house was often searched by the Johnnies,as we called them...They were looking for illegal weapons as they rightly suspected my father being the local TMT commandant.They never found any...The weapons (sten guns,hand grenades,pistols,ammunition etc) were often hastily thrown into beds with us children,who pretended to be asleep or sick,depending on the time of day...They looked everywhere except in our beds...They couldn't imagine children being abused in such manner, I suppose... :)
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Postby Floda » Sat Nov 08, 2008 3:45 pm

BirKibrisli, never read such a load of old bollocks !, kick the door in and turn over ALL beds is the standard mode of search by those seeking evidence of 'Terrorist Activities'.

Quite apart from the fact that the British would soon notice that there seemed to be a lot of sick and sleeping children about whenever they descended upon the unsuspecting victims of their aggression.

Or did they first send 'Notice of Intent' BEFORE they kicked the door in ?. :roll:
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Postby Oracle » Sat Nov 08, 2008 3:49 pm

kafenes wrote:My father used to mention the Gurkhas. From what I understood, it would have been the late 40s to early 50s.


I can understand the Gurkhas being used by the British during WWII, and maybe utilised as peace-keeping units, but it seems rather distasteful to believe they would willingly fight in Britain's more controversial wars, especially against fellow colonial victims, such as the EOKA Freedom Fighters.

Who are the Gurkhas?

Gurkhas have been part of the British Army for almost 200 years, but who are these fearsome Nepalese fighters?

"Better to die than be a coward" is the motto of the world-famous Nepalese Gurkha soldiers who are an integral part of the British Army.

They still carry into battle their traditional weapon - an 18-inch long curved knife known as the kukri.

In times past, it was said that once a kukri was drawn in battle, it had to "taste blood" - if not, its owner had to cut himself before returning it to its sheath.

The potential of these warriors was first realised by the British at the height of their empire-building in the last century.

Following the partition of India in 1947, an agreement between Nepal, India and Britain meant four Gurkha regiments from the Indian army were transferred to the British Army, eventually becoming the Gurkha Brigade.

Since then, the Gurkhas have loyally fought for the British all over the world, winning 13 Victoria Crosses between them.

More than 200,000 fought in the two world wars and in the past 50 years, they have served in Hong Kong, Malaysia, Borneo, Cyprus, the Falklands, Kosovo and Afghanistan.


So it would be interesting to find out precisely what their duties were against their fellow Colonial subjects fighting for their freedom from the British, as presumably once they had to do ...
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Postby Paphitis » Sat Nov 08, 2008 3:56 pm

We are all well aware of Britain’s crimes in Cyprus. The implementation of draconian curfews, the intrusive violations of people's homes, the beatings, the arresting of political dissidents and their torture, and cold blooded murder committed against a people who merely wanted their self rule and determination. Crimes such as this have made Britain one of the most hated nations in the world.

British barbarism has been prevalent over many centuries and even continues to this very day. A truly heartless nation, which displays no compassion to fellow humans.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/co ... 53493.html

It is also terrible to have learnt the ghastly fact that Britain has caused well over 1 million civilian deaths during "The Irish Potato Famine".

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/697876789

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Pota ... (1845-1849)

The internet is absolutely littered with historical references to atrocities committed by this most cowardly nation.

And to top things off, we have some expat Brits here who only moan about our upfront and direct views. They attack other members personally because they do not have the ability to speak to people in a direct and charismatic manner. They really do need to really take a good look at their country and themselves before they speak to anyone in Cyprus in such a snobbish and bitchy way, because quite frankly we have seen your brute force in the past and you had demoralised our people over decades.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 08, 2008 3:57 pm

Oracle wrote:So it would be interesting to find out precisely what their duties were against their fellow Colonial subjects fighting for their freedom from the British, as presumably once they had to do ...

There’s nothing complicated about it. Around 1500 “Police” were brought from England to police the public to free-up military personnel who could then be used in the mountains to go after the actual EOKA fighters.

Remember this link?

http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute.ar ... ?PubID=648

From there, you can click on “Read Now” to open the PDF (Acrobat) document.

Page 24 is where the “Case Study Cyprus” begins.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Nov 08, 2008 4:00 pm

Oracle wrote:
kafenes wrote:My father used to mention the Gurkhas. From what I understood, it would have been the late 40s to early 50s.


I can understand the Gurkhas being used by the British during WWII, and maybe utilised as peace-keeping units, but it seems rather distasteful to believe they would willingly fight in Britain's more controversial wars, especially against fellow colonial victims, such as the EOKA Freedom Fighters.

Who are the Gurkhas?

Gurkhas have been part of the British Army for almost 200 years, but who are these fearsome Nepalese fighters?

"Better to die than be a coward" is the motto of the world-famous Nepalese Gurkha soldiers who are an integral part of the British Army.

They still carry into battle their traditional weapon - an 18-inch long curved knife known as the kukri.

In times past, it was said that once a kukri was drawn in battle, it had to "taste blood" - if not, its owner had to cut himself before returning it to its sheath.

The potential of these warriors was first realised by the British at the height of their empire-building in the last century.

Following the partition of India in 1947, an agreement between Nepal, India and Britain meant four Gurkha regiments from the Indian army were transferred to the British Army, eventually becoming the Gurkha Brigade.

Since then, the Gurkhas have loyally fought for the British all over the world, winning 13 Victoria Crosses between them.

More than 200,000 fought in the two world wars and in the past 50 years, they have served in Hong Kong, Malaysia, Borneo, Cyprus, the Falklands, Kosovo and Afghanistan.


So it would be interesting to find out precisely what their duties were against their fellow Colonial subjects fighting for their freedom from the British, as presumably once they had to do ...



Wasnt it the Bravery of a single Gurkha who allegedly stopped the might of the Turkish Army passing through the SBA in 1974? Apparently the Turks were terrified of these small men and stopped in their tracks.

Well tha was the British press. Extolling the capabilities of these brave men. Now they have to fight for their rights.
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