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[Get Real!]

So what’s the big deal with Obama being elected?

Watching American voters sob on TV upon Obama’s victory, gives a false sense of a coming panacea but in reality it’s nothing more than the typical American mainstream emotional confusion oblivious to reality, because any psychologist will tell you that those who laugh or cry very easily have the classic signs of an emotional wreck.

So what do these sobbing American people actually expect will happen now that Obama will become president in a few weeks?


* That their 14 odd trillion dollar external debt will now be wavered or magically paid off?

* That the US military will now withdraw from Iraq or Afghanistan, and the US government will pay to reconstruct these trashed countries?

* That the US government will now establish good relations with “foes” like Iran, N.Korea, Syria, and others?

* That the US will now accept Islam as just another religion with which Christianity will coexist instead of calling half of them “Islamo-fascists”?

* That US foreign policy will now persevere for a just solution for all nations and peoples around the world and particularly Palestinians?

* That the US will henceforth respect Russia and cease to play games at her doorstep by agitating her neighbors?

* That the US government will now cease to use the “Al qaida” fabrication as a “justification” for preemptive attacks on 3rd world countries?

* That the US will now start respecting international law?

If these American people were sobbing for any of the above then shouldn’t they wait to see if this character “Obama” will actually do something about any of the problems FIRST before acting as if they are starring at Jesus Christ?

On the other hand, if these American people were NOT sobbing for any of the above, then what the hell were they crying for? The mind boggles…

When Obama talks about “change” the ONLY thing he can guarantee to change is the name of the US president… so what’s the fuss all about?


Regards, GR.

[Bananiot]

A Greek Cypriot commentator was watching Obama’s victory speech when he noticed a black guy cry.

“This black person is crying, god bless him”, he said in a condoning tone.

The black person was in fact the reverend Jessie Jackson and GR’s post reminded me of the commentator’s remarks. Epidermic and inappropriate.

[Mills Chapman]

So what’s the big deal with Obama being elected?

GR, most of the Americans who were sobbing out of happiness were African-Americans. It had to do with the breaking down of the last barrier for Black people in America. Think of a Turkish citizen of Greek origin becoming the leader of Turkey or a Greek citizen of Turkish origin becoming the leader of Greece. This example is much more extreme than Black-White relations in the USA, but there is immense pride among Black Americans right now and a sense that their children will believe that they can do anything with their future lives, which wasn't the case just 20, 30, or 40 years ago. There was too much prejudice then. Some of this prejudice remains, but less so.

Also, there is the realization among a lot of Americans that Obama is an inspiring individual and that the world thinks better of America now that the country has shown that it would not elect a man whose policies would have been similar to George Bush's - or at least much more similar than Obama's will be.

Hope that helps. - M

[DT.]

A Greek Cypriot commentator was watching Obama’s victory speech when he noticed a black guy cry.

“This black person is crying, god bless him”, he said in a condoning tone.

The black person was in fact the reverend Jessie Jackson and GR’s post reminded me of the commentator’s remarks. Epidermic and inappropriate.

Not just Jesse Jackson but Colin Powell was sobbing as well.

[Paphitis]

So what’s the big deal with Obama being elected?

Watching American voters sob on TV upon Obama’s victory, gives a false sense of a coming panacea but in reality it’s nothing more than the typical American mainstream emotional confusion oblivious to reality, because any psychologist will tell you that those who laugh or cry very easily have the classic signs of an emotional wreck.

Those that sobbed were mostly black Americans. In their case, it has nothing to do with "emotional confusion". Not in their wildest dreams did these people think that they will 1 day be able to elect a black President. It heralds a new dawn.

Don't be fooled into thinking that all this is meaningless. It is a defining moment in US history, comparable to the Moon landing. It is a "Giant Leap" against racial discrimination in America.

On the other hand, most whites but not all, that behave in the manner you describe can be described as "emotionally confused". Especially the ones that overplay the race card. To me, many people take advantage of this just to look good and appear so liberal and non racist. I have no time for them. It is usually these people that probably have never voted before, have a very low political awareness, and do not take into consideration the real issues.

So what do these sobbing American people actually expect will happen now that Obama will become president in a few weeks?

It gives the African Americans HOPE. A realisation that they can now achieve anything.

* That their 14 odd trillion dollar external debt will now be wavered or magically paid off?

It is possible that the Financial Markets might experience a minor recovery once Obama implements his fiscal policy and grants promised tax cuts. This could fuel consumer confidence and spending.

People need to wait and analyse Obama's economic policy in more detail. And yes, Obama can make inroads to America's foreign debt with the correct economic policies.

* That the US military will now withdraw from Iraq or Afghanistan, and the US government will pay to reconstruct these trashed countries?

Withdrawal from Iraq is a possibility.

And America and other allies have so far spent billions repairing and rebuilding infrastructure.

* That the US government will now establish good relations with “foes” like Iran, N.Korea, Syria, and others?

This can never happen, and you know this.

Iran is sadly on the hit list, and the only thing that can guarantee Iran from not being attacked is a deterrence such as them having a nuclear arsenal. Israel is considered an extension of America, as the Israelis (Jews) influence the financial markets so much.

* That the US will now accept Islam as just another religion with which Christianity will coexist instead of calling half of them “Islamo-fascists”?

I am pretty sure that the US constitution allows for complete religious freedoms.

If anything, it is the uneducated racist rednecks of the Bible Belt that would call Muslims "Islamo-Fascists", and this has nothing to do with the Federation. This is called racism, and I believe you find racism in every country.

* That US foreign policy will now persevere for a just solution for all nations and peoples around the world and particularly Palestinians?

Unfortunately no.

It is not an ideal and just world, and sadly, Israel will always be under America's guardianship, or America will be under Israel's guardianship as they have so much power and influence.

* That the US will henceforth respect Russia and cease to play games at her doorstep by agitating her neighbors?

Sorry, you have lost me here.

Can you please provide a link and an example of America playing games at Russia's doorstop.

* That the US government will now cease to use the “Al qaida” fabrication as a “justification” for preemptive attacks on 3rd world countries?

Yes. I anticipate Obama to be much less agressive than Bush. Iran may be the only possibility for conflict.

Presidents do change, but Foreign policy is more or less static.

* That the US will now start respecting international law?

With respect to what exactly? Provide an example and I will embellish your discussion.

If these American people were sobbing for any of the above then shouldn’t they wait to see if this character “Obama” will actually do something about any of the problems FIRST before acting as if they are starring at Jesus Christ?

On the other hand, if these American people were NOT sobbing for any of the above, then what the hell were they crying for? The mind boggles…

They were sobbing because for the first time in 8 years, the American people have HOPE.

In order to have hope, you must stop being overly cynical.

When Obama talks about “change” the ONLY thing he can guarantee to change is the name of the US president… so what’s the fuss all about?

A new beginning. A new found hope. The realisation that black Americans should no longer believe they are second class citizens. I think black Americans have good reason to be a little emotional. Don't you?

[Piratis]

If nothing else Obama will do wonders for the image of the USA abroad. He seems like he can be the best president that the USA had for decades.

Personally I am glad he is elected since he was my favorite from the beginning. For some reason I didn't like Hilary, she seemed too fake to me, although any democrat would be better than a republican.

McCain seems like an OK guy and I think his concession speech was excellent. But the Republicans pushed him too much on the right to please all their super Christians and their rednecks. And his choice for vice president was very bad. He is 72, he could die within the 4 years, and then the USA would end up with some female Bush as a president.

[Oracle]

Personally I am pleased the US has demonstrated it accepts all its (male) citizens as equals. We would have had an entirely different result if Mrs Obama stood!

It's still a shame they preferred to prove a point, in this way, and lost the opportunity to have an intelligent person like Hilary Clinton getting the country out of this male-created mire.

Maybe we can now trundle along for four years and the US can then demonstrate its new found maturity, safely absolved from its slavery sins and guilt, and choose someone on merit!

[DT.]

Personally I am pleased the US has demonstrated it accepts all its (male) citizens as equals. We would have had an entirely different result if Mrs Obama stood!

It's still a shame they preferred to prove a point, in this way, and lost the opportunity to have an intelligent person like Hilary Clinton getting the country out of this male-created mire.

Maybe we can now trundle along for four years and the US can then demonstrate its new found maturity, safely absolved from its slavery sins and guilt, and choose someone on merit!

Off course we would. SHe's a different person

[Oracle]

Personally I am pleased the US has demonstrated it accepts all its (male) citizens as equals. We would have had an entirely different result if Mrs Obama stood!

It's still a shame they preferred to prove a point, in this way, and lost the opportunity to have an intelligent person like Hilary Clinton getting the country out of this male-created mire.

Maybe we can now trundle along for four years and the US can then demonstrate its new found maturity, safely absolved from its slavery sins and guilt, and choose someone on merit!

Off course we would. SHe's a different person

Don't be facetious!

You know I meant if an equally worthy (to Obama) Black / Half-Black woman.

The US is not capable of dealing with a Woman as President (let alone a Black woman .... that is how backward they still are).

I still believe, faced with an above-intelligent white woman (Clinton) and an average Black man they preferred to demonstrate their racial fairness above their sexual equality even though Hilary was the MERIT candidate.

Look at the mockery bestowed on Palin!

[Bananiot]

Palin was ctiticised (mocked) because of her actions (nepotism etc) I thought, not because of her sex. But, we could start a battle of sexes I suppose, without being facetious.