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Postby Oracle » Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:02 pm

Bananiot wrote:Palin was ctiticised (mocked) because of her actions (nepotism etc) I thought, not because of her sex. But, we could start a battle of sexes I suppose, without being facetious.


No Bananiot it was primarily because she was a Mom!

Obama had shown much worse "nepotism" in not condoning his Aunt's illegal US residency, yet that did not make an iota of difference ... because by then America had been swept away by self-righteous pseudo-"equality".
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:18 pm

Maybe we can now trundle along for four years and the US can then demonstrate its new found maturity, safely absolved from its slavery sins and guilt, and choose someone on merit!


I totally agree with this.

People voted solely on the basis of Obama's skin colour. The nation was swept away by self-righteous pseudo "equality", and policies were second fiddle. The same mentality has also swept this forum and the world, and I am a little fed up with it. It simply makes people feel good about themselves, especially the ones that feel guilty over past "sins". :roll:

Another thing to consider is that George Bush was the biggest disaster, so the Republican Party was no serious competition to begin with. It may have been a different story if this was not the case.

But why do you believe that Hillary was the MERIT candidate? What makes you believe that she is better than Obama?
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Postby Floda » Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:38 pm

I think it is GREAT to see Obama elected to be the next President of America, whether or not he will be able to make any significant changes remains to be seen although he DOES talk up a storm.

Rectifying the state of the economy and foreign policy issues will be monumental tasks for him to face, doubtless he will soon be receiving much criticism for not being able to fulfill his promises (poor chap) but if he is able to survive the venom of his critics (and there will be many), hopefully he will be able to restore some confidence in his ability to do so midst the mayhem he inherits from his predecessor.

The fact that he is hailed as a 'Black Man' (seemingly more important than his other attributes) is something smacking of 'Poetic Justice' for the American people, I really hope the man delivers, it will be salt in the wounds to all those who were so opposed to the African Americans in the past.

On a lighter note, If "I" was Obama, my first move would be to drop my Surname and adopt my two Fornames, President 'Barak Hussein' has a certain ring to it and would 'Add Salt' to the wounds of those who were in favour of committing probably THE most unjust attack upon an innocent nation (according to the reasons for such) in the annals of military history.

Perhaps the 'Ghost of Saddam Hussein' has come back to haunt the nation that has caused so much strife in the world, certainly the Yanks seem to have taken a severe nosedive in many areas since.

May God (or Allah) spare them. :wink:
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 08, 2008 2:13 pm

"How About Some Real Change in Foreign Policy?"

http://www.fff.org/blog/jghblog2008-11-06.asp
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Postby Paphitis » Sat Nov 08, 2008 2:32 pm

Get Real! wrote:"How About Some Real Change in Foreign Policy?"

http://www.fff.org/blog/jghblog2008-11-06.asp


He has pledged a staggered withdrawal from Iraq within 16 months of taking office. The Iraqi Government actually want the US troops to stay until 2011, but I have the impression that this is not desired by America.

The UN mandate ends on 31 Dec 08, so it will be interesting to see if this mandate is extended. It will also be interesting to see if Obama remains true to his word and proceeds with plans of a staggered withdrawal. This would be a most positive step.

As for Afghanistan, things do not seem so positive. Obama has actually called Afghanistan "the real front of the war on terrorism" and wants to send an extra 7,000 troops. The Pentagon has actually requested an extra 20,000 troops in Afghanistan. It will be interesting to see what happens.

I anticipate that this war will continue as he may see the advantage of actually getting a lucky break and actually capturing Osama Bin Laden. He may consider this as his defining legacy.

So there are some positives, and many things that will not change. Time will tell.
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Postby dinos » Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:34 pm

Bananiot wrote:Palin was ctiticised (mocked) because of her actions (nepotism etc) I thought, not because of her sex. But, we could start a battle of sexes I suppose, without being facetious.


:lol: :lol: :lol:
Huh? You mean that Africa is not a country but a continent? When did they change that? I bet the next thing you tell me is that the earth is more than 5,000 years old. :roll:

I think Palin was the best dressed idiot (not everybody gets to spend $150,000 on clothes and makeup in two months) to ever run for VP.
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Postby Kikapu » Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:36 pm

DT. wrote:
Bananiot wrote:A Greek Cypriot commentator was watching Obama’s victory speech when he noticed a black guy cry.

“This black person is crying, god bless him”, he said in a condoning tone.

The black person was in fact the reverend Jessie Jackson and GR’s post reminded me of the commentator’s remarks. Epidermic and inappropriate.


Not just Jesse Jackson but Colin Powell was sobbing as well.


I did not see Powell cry on election night at all, but I did see Jessie Jackson sobbing as soon as he realised that the camera was on him. I'm not suggesting that the tears were not real, on the contrary, they were very real. Jessie being a very opportunist person when it comes to the lime light, this was just another example to let us know, that the tears were telling us that, it should have been him on that stage accepting his victory as a president-elect, considering he had made two attempts to run for the presidency himself.

The other reason for his tears was self pity on the remarks he had made about Obama during the primaries on how he would like to cut his (Obama's) balls off. :lol: :lol:

Somehow I don't think Jessie Jackson will be on Obama's guest list for turkey feast for Thanksgivings, once he moves to the White House. :lol:
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Postby Kikapu » Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:06 pm

dinos wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Palin was ctiticised (mocked) because of her actions (nepotism etc) I thought, not because of her sex. But, we could start a battle of sexes I suppose, without being facetious.


:lol: :lol: :lol:
Huh? You mean that Africa is not a country but a continent? When did they change that? I bet the next thing you tell me is that the earth is more than 5,000 years old. :roll:

I think Palin was the best dressed idiot (not everybody gets to spend $150,000 on clothes and makeup in two months) to ever run for VP.


Palin was the best thing that happen to the Republican Party during the Presidential campaign..........with humour, of course. :lol: :lol:

This was just one of many blunders she made when she thought she was actually speaking to the President of France on the telephone. :lol:

Hello, is there anybody home.? :lol:

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/sara ... -prank.htm
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:24 pm

“Robert Fisk: Obama has to pay for eight years of Bush's delusions”

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/co ... 01092.html
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Postby Novus » Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:12 am

Even though I voted against Obama, one of the things I absolutely loved about Obama winning is we finally get to tell all those that said America is too racist to elect a black man, "screw you".

America has the reputation of being racist, but the truth is the perception is many decades out of date. There is still racism here, but it is only among the minority of Americans.
Sure, we still have racial tensions prominent among much of the country, but it is basically a low drone mostly background noise and nothing like the racism we have been accused of all these years.

A lot of people don't realise this, but not just once, but twice a black person was fourth in line to be the president if presidential succession proceeded that far. It has been like this the past eight years here.
Even among the consvervatives and Republicans they were polled as being ready to vote for African-American Condoleeza Rice (88%) for president if she ran.

The days of racist methodology and whelming prevalence in America was over long before Obama ran for president and it is finally time the rest of the world admitted they were wrong about us.
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