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Postby DT. » Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:27 pm

Get Real! wrote:This can be easily settled. Let Andros post the following sentence in Greek…

“Ime kipreos re kobellia, giati en me bistefketai?”

:)


andrikkoui andrikkoui....me to kotchino vrakouii :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:31 pm

DT. wrote:
Get Real! wrote:This can be easily settled. Let Andros post the following sentence in Greek…

“Ime kipreos re kobellia, giati en me bistefketai?”

:)


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Tsie me to misofengaroui bano sto boullin tou... :lol:
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Postby Andros » Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:40 pm

Hi Get Real,

It's the childish reasoning of your request why I refuse to simply translate it. I also do not want the non-speaking/writing Greek Cypriots attending this forum to see how idiotic we can be while the Turks laugh out laud.

If I were a Turk and so desperate to prove to you all that I am Greek Cypriot, I could have simply:

(1) And easily have advised a Greek friend, or even a stranger to do it for me.

(2) Use one of the many Translation applications available.

However, as I have nothing to prove and do not wish to bend to your accusation my dear friend, I will chose to continue on my path in explaining to my fellow Greek Cypriots the reason why I decided to join this forum a while back.

Please Get Real, if I had translated that pathetic line of absent writing, would it truly have proven to you that I am Greek? Are you that easy to convince?

For your information and peace of mind Get Real, I am very much a true Greek person in the flesh my son. I am also very disappointed that my younger Greek Cypriots on this forum refuse to enter into a Fruitful dialog with me, but further and annoyingly chose only to battle my experience and ideas. What have you truly got to lose Get Real? Enter into a logical dialogue with me on the effects of any aspect of our present predicament involving Cyprus and I assure you that you will realise that we think very much along the same lines - in every way. I know how the administrators of this forum hide themselves under flagrant names! Perhaps you could prove me wrong, instead of shutting me away!

Do you really want me to go?
Would it benefit you that much?

Your problem, along with many others in Cyprus' failing University of Cyprus, is that you can not except that there are other Greek Cypriots with a different opinion than perhaps yours. You believe that we Greek Cypriots should all think and utter the same reasoning, believe in the same resolution and want a united Cyprus based on whoever is chosen as the President of the Republic of Cyprus. You should stop being an idealist and concentrate on using your mind as a sponge instead, perhaps you'll ultimately realise that resolving the Cyprus problem will become easier than you've ever have imagined!

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Postby Get Real! » Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:01 pm

Andros wrote:If I were a Turk and so desperate to prove to you all that I am Greek Cypriot, I could have simply:

(1) And easily have advised a Greek friend, or even a stranger to do it for me.

(2) Use one of the many Translation applications available.

Unfortunately for you, translators don’t work with GC and especially when written using Latin characters! Neither can a Greek, Turk, or TC person help you, but only a GC who knows both GC and English.

Andros wrote:Please Get Real, if I had translated that pathetic line of absent writing, would it truly have proven to you that I am Greek? Are you that easy to convince?

A pathetic line of absent writing? I don't think so... it was very easy GC.

Andros wrote:I am also very disappointed that my younger Greek Cypriots on this forum refuse to enter into a Fruitful dialog with me, but further and annoyingly chose only to battle my experience and ideas.

We're happy to discuss anything and with anyone but our only condition is that we establish each other's ethnic background so that any likely bias is taken into consideration beforehand. That's all.

Andros wrote:Do you really want me to go?
Would it benefit you that much?

I don't have such a wish or authority. It's a free place so do as you please, and by the same token we have an obligation to protect our people by warning them about your controversial identity when reading your posts.

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"May God bless you" is typical translator material!
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Postby DT. » Sat Nov 08, 2008 2:28 am

Andros wrote:Hi Get Real,

It's the childish reasoning of your request why I refuse to simply translate it. I also do not want the non-speaking/writing Greek Cypriots attending this forum to see how idiotic we can be while the Turks laugh out laud.

If I were a Turk and so desperate to prove to you all that I am Greek Cypriot, I could have simply:

(1) And easily have advised a Greek friend, or even a stranger to do it for me.

(2) Use one of the many Translation applications available.

However, as I have nothing to prove and do not wish to bend to your accusation my dear friend, I will chose to continue on my path in explaining to my fellow Greek Cypriots the reason why I decided to join this forum a while back.

Please Get Real, if I had translated that pathetic line of absent writing, would it truly have proven to you that I am Greek? Are you that easy to convince?

For your information and peace of mind Get Real, I am very much a true Greek person in the flesh my son. I am also very disappointed that my younger Greek Cypriots on this forum refuse to enter into a Fruitful dialog with me, but further and annoyingly chose only to battle my experience and ideas. What have you truly got to lose Get Real? Enter into a logical dialogue with me on the effects of any aspect of our present predicament involving Cyprus and I assure you that you will realise that we think very much along the same lines - in every way. I know how the administrators of this forum hide themselves under flagrant names! Perhaps you could prove me wrong, instead of shutting me away!

Do you really want me to go?
Would it benefit you that much?

Your problem, along with many others in Cyprus' failing University of Cyprus, is that you can not except that there are other Greek Cypriots with a different opinion than perhaps yours. You believe that we Greek Cypriots should all think and utter the same reasoning, believe in the same resolution and want a united Cyprus based on whoever is chosen as the President of the Republic of Cyprus. You should stop being an idealist and concentrate on using your mind as a sponge instead, perhaps you'll ultimately realise that resolving the Cyprus problem will become easier than you've ever have imagined!

ο Θεός να σε ευλογεί


Thats done it for me! Welcome to the forum Mehmet. :lol:
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sat Nov 08, 2008 3:01 pm

I have a test for Andros....
Andros,can you tell us why the TCs walked out of the 1960 Republic,and were they right in your opinion???
Also, a related question...If they dissolved the trnc and asked to rejoin the original RoC,should they be allowed....???? You answer these questions and I will tell what you are... :wink:
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:20 pm

"However, if we continue to say "OXI" to all these UN Plans, Turkey could use this as a reasonable Pretext to ANNEX Northern Cyprus"

Now that floored me! How can there be ANY reasonable pretext to annexation? Independence of the TC "state" that far I can see. Annexation how? That would be an official deletion of the TCs for whom all this trouble is about.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:59 pm

Where's our friend Andros gone? :? :lol:
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Postby BirKibrisli » Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:33 am

Get Real! wrote:Where's our friend Andros gone? :? :lol:


Where indeed????? :)
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Postby Tony-4497 » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:35 pm

And, how the hell have we gone from a unification deal to one based on TWO States - in fact, now Two "Founding" States?

Did we not say "NO" to the Annan Plan?

What is President Christofias actually agreeing to with Talat behind closed doors?

And, leading to that, what will happen if we SAY NO to this new plan?


Christofias was the greatest Annan-plan lover of all but was forced by the reaction of the people to say no in order to "cement" a yes. Even towards the end of the process ALL he was asking for to give a yes answer was guarantees for the implementation of the Annan plan and a postponement so that he could have enough time to "sell it" to the stupid GCs who just could not see how good it was.

He made a lot of pre- election commitments (i.e. human rights for all, no settlers, Turkish intervention rights, sticking to 9th July agreement etc) to fool AKEL supporters and later DIKO & EDEK, but his actions since taking over prove this was all bullshit. (e.g. abandoning 9th July, accepting rotating presidency and 50,000 settlers, talking about the 18% TCs being equal partners etc).

The man lives in a fantasy world, based on old communist concepts of "global citizenship", TCs being our brothers, basing the country's strategy on "hopes" and "wishes" without realising the risks of his actions to GC survival.

I have no doubt he will deliver a re-packaged Annan plan and try to force GC to accept it through:
(a) Brain washing through the controlled media (including RIK)
(b) Ultimate blackmail that a second "No" vote would mean certain partition without us getting any land back.

This will means that we will either end up saying a second No, which will probably mean the Taiwanisation of TRNC (i.e. EU members allowing direct flights, trade etc) or end up with a fundamentally unfair solution which will most likely lead to bloodshed within a couple of years.
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