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[denizaksulu]

For every Lord Byron there was an Earl of Elgin, as far as help to the Greeks by the Brits, was concerned!

Why compare apples and oranges. A great poet and a thief?

[Bananiot]

Piratis, what does your diatribe says about Turkey's liberation war in 1919?

[Oracle]

For every Lord Byron there was an Earl of Elgin, as far as help to the Greeks by the Brits, was concerned!

Why compare apples and oranges. A great poet and a thief?

Is it just communication you are after? .... for I know full well you know what I meant by the comparison

Lord Byron's greatest contribution to the Greeks was not his poetry, but the sacrifice of his life whilst helping fight the Ottomans.

[Paphitis]

Piratis, what does your diatribe says about Turkey's liberation war in 1919?

Did they liberate Mongolia in 1919?

[denizaksulu]

For every Lord Byron there was an Earl of Elgin, as far as help to the Greeks by the Brits, was concerned!

Why compare apples and oranges. A great poet and a thief?

Is it just communication you are after? .... for I know full well you know what I meant by the comparison

Lord Byron's greatest contribution to the Greeks was not his poetry, but the sacrifice of his life whilst helping fight the Ottomans.

I admire Vryonis for his poetry, of which I ahve his tapes. But didnt he die of illness?, was it on Misolingni(correct spelling)?

[Oracle]

For every Lord Byron there was an Earl of Elgin, as far as help to the Greeks by the Brits, was concerned!

Why compare apples and oranges. A great poet and a thief?

Is it just communication you are after? .... for I know full well you know what I meant by the comparison

Lord Byron's greatest contribution to the Greeks was not his poetry, but the sacrifice of his life whilst helping fight the Ottomans.

I admire Vryonis for his poetry, of which I ahve his tapes. But didnt he die of illness?, was it on Misolingni(correct spelling)?

He died of fever whilst he was helping fight against the Ottomans.
They carried a lot of diseases those Ottomans

Did you know they spread plague

[denizaksulu]

For every Lord Byron there was an Earl of Elgin, as far as help to the Greeks by the Brits, was concerned!

Why compare apples and oranges. A great poet and a thief?

Is it just communication you are after? .... for I know full well you know what I meant by the comparison

Lord Byron's greatest contribution to the Greeks was not his poetry, but the sacrifice of his life whilst helping fight the Ottomans.

I admire Vryonis for his poetry, of which I ahve his tapes. But didnt he die of illness?, was it on Misolingni(correct spelling)?

He died of fever whilst he was helping fight against the Ottomans.
They carried a lot of diseases those Ottomans

Did you know they spread plague

Stop being pedantic O. He lived among the Greeks fcol.

[denizaksulu]

What was the help? Oh yes, Vryonis writes poetry, lets go kill Turks. Right up your street.

[BirKibrisli]

Very good Piratis, but your simple world has no place in the real world. The Bananiots of 1897 and 1919 were warning of the dangers but the great patriots were not listening at the time. The Bananiots were warning in 1963 but the great patriots were calling us defeatists. The great patriots were asking us to throw the Turks into the sea in 1974 but while the Bananiots were at the front, the great patriots were holidaying at Troodos, for they cannot stand the hot Cyprus summer. Michalis Papapetrou, the bash defeatist, has a great story to tell you, if you are interested Piratis.

Nikitas, I am sure you know that going to war is not a business for the emotionally ustable. The Greek army was well prepared for the Balkan wars and the timing was also perfect to attempt to liberate the northenr parts of Greece. The Greek navy achieved superiority over the Ottoman navy thanks to the British officers who undertook to educate and train their Greek counterparts. Of course nobody knows of this small detail because our school history books teach us that it as the Greek "leventia" that triumphed, fuelling the ignorance that spreads aboundant in our sleepy society.

I hope that was not addressed to me either?

Just too easy to nullify your angle. Not challenging enough to offer any stimulation.

Paphidis,
Lets see if you will find my post any more challenging...
You seem to believe that the only cause of our present problem is that Turkey woke up one day in 1974 and decided her army needed some entertainment...And they are still finding it amusing to invade a neighbouring relatively weaker country so they will not go away...Is that it??? I often ask those who hold your opinions to self-reflect and tell me some things that the GCs did wrong to bring about the invasion and the occupation...I am still waiting for one GC apart from Bananiot to be objective and honest about the causes of the Cyprob...

You know what??? Burying your head in the sand and accusing only the Turkish side for everything under the sun, will not help find a just solution acceptable to both sides which will finally liberate Turkey from the burden of Cyprus...Speaking out objectively and without fear or favour,as Bananiot does, will help...

Do you want to help solve the problem...???Tell me 3 things that the GCs did wrong since 1950 which allowed the present situation to evolve???
If it is not too boring for you that is...

[Paphitis]

Very good Piratis, but your simple world has no place in the real world. The Bananiots of 1897 and 1919 were warning of the dangers but the great patriots were not listening at the time. The Bananiots were warning in 1963 but the great patriots were calling us defeatists. The great patriots were asking us to throw the Turks into the sea in 1974 but while the Bananiots were at the front, the great patriots were holidaying at Troodos, for they cannot stand the hot Cyprus summer. Michalis Papapetrou, the bash defeatist, has a great story to tell you, if you are interested Piratis.

Nikitas, I am sure you know that going to war is not a business for the emotionally ustable. The Greek army was well prepared for the Balkan wars and the timing was also perfect to attempt to liberate the northenr parts of Greece. The Greek navy achieved superiority over the Ottoman navy thanks to the British officers who undertook to educate and train their Greek counterparts. Of course nobody knows of this small detail because our school history books teach us that it as the Greek "leventia" that triumphed, fuelling the ignorance that spreads aboundant in our sleepy society.

I hope that was not addressed to me either?

Just too easy to nullify your angle. Not challenging enough to offer any stimulation.

Paphidis,
Lets see if you will find my post any more challenging...
You seem to believe that the only cause of our present problem is that Turkey woke up one day in 1974 and decided her army needed some entertainment...And they are still finding it amusing to invade a neighbouring relatively weaker country so they will not go away...Is that it??? I often ask those who hold your opinions to self-reflect and tell me some things that the GCs did wrong to bring about the invasion and the occupation...I am still waiting for one GC apart from Bananiot to be objective and honest about the causes of the Cyprob...

You know what??? Burying your head in the sand and accusing only the Turkish side for everything under the sun, will not help find a just solution acceptable to both sides which will finally liberate Turkey from the burden of Cyprus...Speaking out objectively and without fear or favour,as Bananiot does, will help...

Do you want to help solve the problem...???Tell me 3 things that the GCs did wrong since 1950 which allowed the present situation to evolve???
If it is not too boring for you that is...

I could tell you many things that all sides did wrong. Starting with the British, who instigated the whole disaster by not allowing self determination and creating divisions amongst the GCs and TCs. Self determination was the fundamental right of the Cypriot people and you chose to impede us, hence it was only natural that you would have some casualties.

But this does not change the fact that Turkey is a nation that is still occupying Cyprus for 34 years whilst snubbing her nose to countless UN resolutions. It does not change the fact that it is Turkey which to this very day is contravening the 1960 Treaty of Guarantee with 40,000 troops and scoffing at her obligations under this treaty to respect the territorial integrity and sovereignty of the Republic.

It is Turkey that has ethnically cleansed 200,000 refugees, Turkified the occupied North. And now you want to negotiate a solution to legalise your plunder. It will NOT happen! Because we will not sign over control of our country to Turkey. We will never accept a solution which will render us as second class citizens.

You cannot justify your plunder by continuously reminding us of the past, when at the same time YOUR past was even more chequered as you have now realised your 55 year dream of TAKSIM.

Bananiot does not help at all. All he does is infuriate many people like myself. Because there is no way that some of us can ever accept living under Turkey's thumb. This may be OK for Bananiot, but not the majority of GCs. So I ask you, what do you think is going to happen if the Bananiots succeed in selling our democratic and human rights? Do you think selling these rights are worth your measly 7% of land?

I certainly hope that soon you will see the writing on the wall. Your unfair and illegitimate demands will fall by the wayside. Take note, because this is how the majority of GCs feel.

Talat is not serious about a solution. He is nothing but an imposter and very soon he will be exposed for the whole world to see.