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Postby Oracle » Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:53 pm

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Oracle wrote:I take it you condone such practices of restricting Freedom of Speech and perpetuating ignorance ....


No... but if I wanted to find out about such things I would visit web sites dedicated to the subject... :roll:


Well I do not happen to believe something as fundamental as freedom of speech has to be restricted to a "dedicated" website (although I agree it deserves dedicated attention), and be excluded from everyday discussion because it tires someone's brain out to talk about more than Chlorine sources for one's swimming pool!

.... But to make this topic more Cyprusgrump friendly; where would we be if not for Science, but swimming in germ ridden pools :roll:

Happy now, Grump dear :wink:


It is a tiresome shame that your concerns about freedom of speech and other such issues is restricted to Turkey...


Well now you have flipped into over-generalized whinges :roll: .... My concerns are many, but on this forum the Turkey/Cyprus/Greece/UK/US are the main countries of interest (for reasons I know I do not have to spell out to you).

Now if at the present time (and these are highly topical and of the moment) there is more media attention because Turkey is systematically banning left right and centre (cue for CopperLine to blow a fuse!), then there is ample rich fodder for easy pickings.

However, I would not moan if someone wrote about Tibet or The Democratic Republic of the Congo, for us to discuss ... so why don't you go ahead and enrich us .....


Would you moan about Scotsmen wearing skirts/kilts??


No I love hunky men in Kilts and the whole Tartan and Clan culture. I also like the Greek Evzones and the Cypriot Vraka ... But so what?

Why don't you start a thread?
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Postby Oracle » Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:02 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:I take it you condone such practices of restricting Freedom of Speech and perpetuating ignorance ....


No... but if I wanted to find out about such things I would visit web sites dedicated to the subject... :roll:


Well I do not happen to believe something as fundamental as freedom of speech has to be restricted to a "dedicated" website (although I agree it deserves dedicated attention), and be excluded from everyday discussion because it tires someone's brain out to talk about more than Chlorine sources for one's swimming pool!

.... But to make this topic more Cyprusgrump friendly; where would we be if not for Science, but swimming in germ ridden pools :roll:

Happy now, Grump dear :wink:


It is a tiresome shame that your concerns about freedom of speech and other such issues is restricted to Turkey...


Well now you have flipped into over-generalized whinges :roll: .... My concerns are many, but on this forum the Turkey/Cyprus/Greece/UK/US are the main countries of interest (for reasons I know I do not have to spell out to you).

Now if at the present time (and these are highly topical and of the moment) there is more media attention because Turkey is systematically banning left right and centre (cue for CopperLine to blow a fuse!), then there is ample rich fodder for easy pickings.

However, I would not moan if someone wrote about Tibet or The Democratic Republic of the Congo, for us to discuss ... so why don't you go ahead and enrich us .....

Because I don't think anybody here on the Cyprus forum would have the slightest interest... :roll:

If they did have concerns about the 13 y/o Somalian girl stoned to death for being raped, etc. I would guess that they are discussing it on a more appropriate site...


Now you are looking for a cop-out.

Tell me why a discussion on current restrictions, presented in the British press about Turkey, are irrelevant to an English-speaking Cyprus forum .....
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Postby cyprusgrump » Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:04 pm

Oracle wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:
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Oracle wrote:I take it you condone such practices of restricting Freedom of Speech and perpetuating ignorance ....


No... but if I wanted to find out about such things I would visit web sites dedicated to the subject... :roll:


Well I do not happen to believe something as fundamental as freedom of speech has to be restricted to a "dedicated" website (although I agree it deserves dedicated attention), and be excluded from everyday discussion because it tires someone's brain out to talk about more than Chlorine sources for one's swimming pool!

.... But to make this topic more Cyprusgrump friendly; where would we be if not for Science, but swimming in germ ridden pools :roll:

Happy now, Grump dear :wink:


It is a tiresome shame that your concerns about freedom of speech and other such issues is restricted to Turkey...


Well now you have flipped into over-generalized whinges :roll: .... My concerns are many, but on this forum the Turkey/Cyprus/Greece/UK/US are the main countries of interest (for reasons I know I do not have to spell out to you).

Now if at the present time (and these are highly topical and of the moment) there is more media attention because Turkey is systematically banning left right and centre (cue for CopperLine to blow a fuse!), then there is ample rich fodder for easy pickings.

However, I would not moan if someone wrote about Tibet or The Democratic Republic of the Congo, for us to discuss ... so why don't you go ahead and enrich us .....

Because I don't think anybody here on the Cyprus forum would have the slightest interest... :roll:

If they did have concerns about the 13 y/o Somalian girl stoned to death for being raped, etc. I would guess that they are discussing it on a more appropriate site...


Now you are looking for a cop-out.

Tell me why a discussion on current restrictions, presented in the British press about Turkey, are irrelevant to an English-speaking Cyprus forum .....


I didn't say they were irrelevant... I'm just bored with them... :roll:

cyprusgrump wrote:Personally I'm fed-up with Turkey bashing on this forum... :evil:
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Postby Oracle » Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:16 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:I take it you condone such practices of restricting Freedom of Speech and perpetuating ignorance ....


No... but if I wanted to find out about such things I would visit web sites dedicated to the subject... :roll:


Well I do not happen to believe something as fundamental as freedom of speech has to be restricted to a "dedicated" website (although I agree it deserves dedicated attention), and be excluded from everyday discussion because it tires someone's brain out to talk about more than Chlorine sources for one's swimming pool!

.... But to make this topic more Cyprusgrump friendly; where would we be if not for Science, but swimming in germ ridden pools :roll:

Happy now, Grump dear :wink:


It is a tiresome shame that your concerns about freedom of speech and other such issues is restricted to Turkey...


Well now you have flipped into over-generalized whinges :roll: .... My concerns are many, but on this forum the Turkey/Cyprus/Greece/UK/US are the main countries of interest (for reasons I know I do not have to spell out to you).

Now if at the present time (and these are highly topical and of the moment) there is more media attention because Turkey is systematically banning left right and centre (cue for CopperLine to blow a fuse!), then there is ample rich fodder for easy pickings.

However, I would not moan if someone wrote about Tibet or The Democratic Republic of the Congo, for us to discuss ... so why don't you go ahead and enrich us .....

Because I don't think anybody here on the Cyprus forum would have the slightest interest... :roll:

If they did have concerns about the 13 y/o Somalian girl stoned to death for being raped, etc. I would guess that they are discussing it on a more appropriate site...


Now you are looking for a cop-out.

Tell me why a discussion on current restrictions, presented in the British press about Turkey, are irrelevant to an English-speaking Cyprus forum .....


I didn't say they were irrelevant... I'm just bored with them... :roll:

cyprusgrump wrote:Personally I'm fed-up with Turkey bashing on this forum... :evil:


So why don't you post a topic on something you are interested in .... because you sure as hell are boring me! :lol:

(You know you could have picked up on the creationist mantle or this colourful character that is offering trillions of Lira for fossils ... but no! you did not look beyond the word Turkey .... Maybe Science is boring too! :wink: ).
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Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:37 am

Oracle wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:I take it you condone such practices of restricting Freedom of Speech and perpetuating ignorance ....


No... but if I wanted to find out about such things I would visit web sites dedicated to the subject... :roll:


Well I do not happen to believe something as fundamental as freedom of speech has to be restricted to a "dedicated" website (although I agree it deserves dedicated attention), and be excluded from everyday discussion because it tires someone's brain out to talk about more than Chlorine sources for one's swimming pool!

.... But to make this topic more Cyprusgrump friendly; where would we be if not for Science, but swimming in germ ridden pools :roll:

Happy now, Grump dear :wink:


It is a tiresome shame that your concerns about freedom of speech and other such issues is restricted to Turkey...


Well now you have flipped into over-generalized whinges :roll: .... My concerns are many, but on this forum the Turkey/Cyprus/Greece/UK/US are the main countries of interest (for reasons I know I do not have to spell out to you).

Now if at the present time (and these are highly topical and of the moment) there is more media attention because Turkey is systematically banning left right and centre (cue for CopperLine to blow a fuse!), then there is ample rich fodder for easy pickings.

However, I would not moan if someone wrote about Tibet or The Democratic Republic of the Congo, for us to discuss ... so why don't you go ahead and enrich us .....

Because I don't think anybody here on the Cyprus forum would have the slightest interest... :roll:

If they did have concerns about the 13 y/o Somalian girl stoned to death for being raped, etc. I would guess that they are discussing it on a more appropriate site...


Now you are looking for a cop-out.

Tell me why a discussion on current restrictions, presented in the British press about Turkey, are irrelevant to an English-speaking Cyprus forum .....


I didn't say they were irrelevant... I'm just bored with them... :roll:

cyprusgrump wrote:Personally I'm fed-up with Turkey bashing on this forum... :evil:


So why don't you post a topic on something you are interested in .... because you sure as hell are boring me! :lol:

(You know you could have picked up on the creationist mantle or this colourful character that is offering trillions of Lira for fossils ... but no! you did not look beyond the word Turkey .... Maybe Science is boring too! :wink: ).


Because recently every topic turns into a GC/TC debate on here... :roll:

In fact... I'm not even sure why I bother logging-on any more... :evil:
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Postby Oracle » Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:16 am

cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:I take it you condone such practices of restricting Freedom of Speech and perpetuating ignorance ....


No... but if I wanted to find out about such things I would visit web sites dedicated to the subject... :roll:


Well I do not happen to believe something as fundamental as freedom of speech has to be restricted to a "dedicated" website (although I agree it deserves dedicated attention), and be excluded from everyday discussion because it tires someone's brain out to talk about more than Chlorine sources for one's swimming pool!

.... But to make this topic more Cyprusgrump friendly; where would we be if not for Science, but swimming in germ ridden pools :roll:

Happy now, Grump dear :wink:


It is a tiresome shame that your concerns about freedom of speech and other such issues is restricted to Turkey...


Well now you have flipped into over-generalized whinges :roll: .... My concerns are many, but on this forum the Turkey/Cyprus/Greece/UK/US are the main countries of interest (for reasons I know I do not have to spell out to you).

Now if at the present time (and these are highly topical and of the moment) there is more media attention because Turkey is systematically banning left right and centre (cue for CopperLine to blow a fuse!), then there is ample rich fodder for easy pickings.

However, I would not moan if someone wrote about Tibet or The Democratic Republic of the Congo, for us to discuss ... so why don't you go ahead and enrich us .....

Because I don't think anybody here on the Cyprus forum would have the slightest interest... :roll:

If they did have concerns about the 13 y/o Somalian girl stoned to death for being raped, etc. I would guess that they are discussing it on a more appropriate site...


Now you are looking for a cop-out.

Tell me why a discussion on current restrictions, presented in the British press about Turkey, are irrelevant to an English-speaking Cyprus forum .....


I didn't say they were irrelevant... I'm just bored with them... :roll:

cyprusgrump wrote:Personally I'm fed-up with Turkey bashing on this forum... :evil:


So why don't you post a topic on something you are interested in .... because you sure as hell are boring me! :lol:

(You know you could have picked up on the creationist mantle or this colourful character that is offering trillions of Lira for fossils ... but no! you did not look beyond the word Turkey .... Maybe Science is boring too! :wink: ).


Because recently every topic turns into a GC/TC debate on here... :roll:

In fact... I'm not even sure why I bother logging-on any more... :evil:


Well that's not true one little bit.

If it seems overwhelmed by TC/GC debates, it is because we have a large section on the Cyprus Problem and a large Politics section etc. Plus Politics is the backbone of civilisation and very much part of a normal daily debate regarding most matters.

Have you sold your weights machine yet? :D
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Postby halil » Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:27 am

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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:45 am

cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:I take it you condone such practices of restricting Freedom of Speech and perpetuating ignorance ....


No... but if I wanted to find out about such things I would visit web sites dedicated to the subject... :roll:


Well I do not happen to believe something as fundamental as freedom of speech has to be restricted to a "dedicated" website (although I agree it deserves dedicated attention), and be excluded from everyday discussion because it tires someone's brain out to talk about more than Chlorine sources for one's swimming pool!

.... But to make this topic more Cyprusgrump friendly; where would we be if not for Science, but swimming in germ ridden pools :roll:

Happy now, Grump dear :wink:


It is a tiresome shame that your concerns about freedom of speech and other such issues is restricted to Turkey...


Well now you have flipped into over-generalized whinges :roll: .... My concerns are many, but on this forum the Turkey/Cyprus/Greece/UK/US are the main countries of interest (for reasons I know I do not have to spell out to you).

Now if at the present time (and these are highly topical and of the moment) there is more media attention because Turkey is systematically banning left right and centre (cue for CopperLine to blow a fuse!), then there is ample rich fodder for easy pickings.

However, I would not moan if someone wrote about Tibet or The Democratic Republic of the Congo, for us to discuss ... so why don't you go ahead and enrich us .....

Because I don't think anybody here on the Cyprus forum would have the slightest interest... :roll:

If they did have concerns about the 13 y/o Somalian girl stoned to death for being raped, etc. I would guess that they are discussing it on a more appropriate site...


Now you are looking for a cop-out.

Tell me why a discussion on current restrictions, presented in the British press about Turkey, are irrelevant to an English-speaking Cyprus forum .....


I didn't say they were irrelevant... I'm just bored with them... :roll:

cyprusgrump wrote:Personally I'm fed-up with Turkey bashing on this forum... :evil:


So why don't you post a topic on something you are interested in .... because you sure as hell are boring me! :lol:

(You know you could have picked up on the creationist mantle or this colourful character that is offering trillions of Lira for fossils ... but no! you did not look beyond the word Turkey .... Maybe Science is boring too! :wink: ).


Because recently every topic turns into a GC/TC debate on here... :roll:

In fact... I'm not even sure why I bother logging-on any more... :evil:



Dont you dare withdraw from the CF. I always look forward to your'grumpiness'. I think I am metamorphosing in to a 'grump' too. Its fun. :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:59 am

denizaksulu wrote:Dont you dare withdraw from the CF. I always look forward to your'grumpiness'. I think I am metamorphosing in to a 'grump' too. Its fun. :lol:


This is Grump playing politics of a different kind (as only Brits know how :lol: ) ... he is under instructions from another ... :wink:
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Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:01 pm

Oracle wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Oracle wrote:I take it you condone such practices of restricting Freedom of Speech and perpetuating ignorance ....


No... but if I wanted to find out about such things I would visit web sites dedicated to the subject... :roll:


Well I do not happen to believe something as fundamental as freedom of speech has to be restricted to a "dedicated" website (although I agree it deserves dedicated attention), and be excluded from everyday discussion because it tires someone's brain out to talk about more than Chlorine sources for one's swimming pool!

.... But to make this topic more Cyprusgrump friendly; where would we be if not for Science, but swimming in germ ridden pools :roll:

Happy now, Grump dear :wink:


It is a tiresome shame that your concerns about freedom of speech and other such issues is restricted to Turkey...


Well now you have flipped into over-generalized whinges :roll: .... My concerns are many, but on this forum the Turkey/Cyprus/Greece/UK/US are the main countries of interest (for reasons I know I do not have to spell out to you).

Now if at the present time (and these are highly topical and of the moment) there is more media attention because Turkey is systematically banning left right and centre (cue for CopperLine to blow a fuse!), then there is ample rich fodder for easy pickings.

However, I would not moan if someone wrote about Tibet or The Democratic Republic of the Congo, for us to discuss ... so why don't you go ahead and enrich us .....

Because I don't think anybody here on the Cyprus forum would have the slightest interest... :roll:

If they did have concerns about the 13 y/o Somalian girl stoned to death for being raped, etc. I would guess that they are discussing it on a more appropriate site...


Now you are looking for a cop-out.

Tell me why a discussion on current restrictions, presented in the British press about Turkey, are irrelevant to an English-speaking Cyprus forum .....


I didn't say they were irrelevant... I'm just bored with them... :roll:

cyprusgrump wrote:Personally I'm fed-up with Turkey bashing on this forum... :evil:


So why don't you post a topic on something you are interested in .... because you sure as hell are boring me! :lol:

(You know you could have picked up on the creationist mantle or this colourful character that is offering trillions of Lira for fossils ... but no! you did not look beyond the word Turkey .... Maybe Science is boring too! :wink: ).


Because recently every topic turns into a GC/TC debate on here... :roll:

In fact... I'm not even sure why I bother logging-on any more... :evil:


Well that's not true one little bit.

If it seems overwhelmed by TC/GC debates, it is because we have a large section on the Cyprus Problem and a large Politics section etc. Plus Politics is the backbone of civilisation and very much part of a normal daily debate regarding most matters.

Have you sold your weights machine yet? :D


Okay...

My perception is that the forum seems to descend into GC/TC acrimony all too frequently. Much more so than it used to. Perhaps I am alone in that and everybody else is happy with the board at the moment...?

IMHO the forum is under-modified - I think the mods and admins need to move or split threads that descend into heated arguments about Cyprob. There is a place on this board dedicated to Cyprob.

When I have been moderating I've always used a very simple rule about what I allowed or disallowed on the forum: -

"What would a brand new poster think if they logged-in to this forum for the first time today?"

In the case of this forum it is now all too often Turkey bashing and acrimonious TC/GC mud slinging.

Just IMHO of course...

And no, I haven't sold the multi-gym yet... :(
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