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[DT.]

History told me (and unlike you, I lived through the period you have referred to) that in 1960 we got a constitution which we deserved because of the wrong policies in 1955 and afterwards. I think they were very generous indeed even with the given constitution, because if we put our faith to it we could have made it work perfectly well and Cyprus today would have been a paradise. A model bicommunal country where Greeks and Turks would be working together in peace, harmony and friendship, achieving great things and becoming role models for their mother countries.

"I think they were very generous"???
This post has turned my stomach. The Americans who fought the British colonialists for independence sat down together and wrote their constitution. They did not receive what the ENglish felt they deserved... We are second rate individuals and can only receive what we deserve from others? I am not a number Bananiot who expects his identity to be handed on a plate. I have pride in myself and who I am, your posts reek of shame and there's no place for that where my family live. Please do not paint me with the same brush you wish to paint yourself.

Stand up straight man, for fuck's sake!!!!!

[Piratis]

Well, Piratis (and many others I suppose) paints a simple picture of the world and seeks simple answers to serious and complicated problems. I think he is extremely childish but we have had leaders who behaved like this, so what could anyone expect?

The late Kyprianou (I have said this before but it is worth remembering) used to argue that the Cyprob in reality is a very simple issue. All it takes, he used to say, is for the occupying army to withdraw and for the refugees to return to their homes and the problem is solved. Some people could not believe their ears when they heard him but the Piratis's of the time were applauding their heads off.

What constitutes a solution is indeed something very simple: Withdrawal of Turkish troops, removal of any division lines, return of at least most refugees to their homes, human rights and democracy.

What is not simple is how we will achieve a solution when we have 70 million Turks who want to use their military power to expand against our island.

Some very "smart" people like Bananiot had this brilliant idea: "How about if we give to the Turks what they want and label it as the "solution". They get what they want, we get (a label of) solution." Very smart!!! I am impressed!

Bananiot, I ask you again: Before we entered the EU the Turks were again threatening us with yet another attack for daring to ask for union with EU. If the Turks had put into action their threads and killed 1000s more Cypriots and caused yet more suffering to the Cypriot people would you blame the Cypriot people because they dared to put into action their desire and right to join EU against the wishes of Turkey and the Turkish minority?

So instead of blaming the aggressor you would be blaming the victim for daring to ask for its rights and refusing to behave as a good slave?

By the same token the blacks in the USA of the generation of Luther King who were murdered for daring to ask for their rights, "got what they deserved" according to Bananiot logic. Maybe what they got was even "generous" because the whites could probably kill much more of them, but they didn't. This is the sick mentality of Bananiot.