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GR! You talk very big for such a little man!

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Postby Oracle » Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:12 pm

T_C wrote:The GCs risked everything for Enosis, yet when the going got tough, Greece just dissapeared into thin air.


No T_C the GCs did not risk everything for Enosis ... they risked everything for freedom from the Brits ... which they almost fully achieved.

Besides, Enosis was not the goal of the Greeks but the Cypriots ... So Greece has never let the GCs down on this.
(In the 70s it was the goal of the Junta to acquire geopolitical power in Cyprus on behalf of the US which is a different matter).

GR! ... stay focused, no matter how much you love little T_C!
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:17 pm

Oracle wrote:GR! ... stay focused, no matter how much you love little T_C!

It's so true... :lol:
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Postby DT. » Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:17 pm

I bet you're all sorry you put up such a fight to bring him back now :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:18 pm

DT. wrote:I bet you're all sorry you put up such a fight to bring him back now :lol:

Yeah, Ricco is better off in ATCA...
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Postby DT. » Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:31 pm

Get Real! wrote:
DT. wrote:I bet you're all sorry you put up such a fight to bring him back now :lol:

Yeah, Ricco is better off in ATCA...


I'm starting to think you invented the entire Eric Dayi persona. Its all coming together now :shock:
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Re: GR! You talk very big for such a little man!

Postby denizaksulu » Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:54 pm

Paphitis wrote:If you think this is all about Hellenism V's Cypriotism, then you are wrong.

For me there is no issue. One complements the other.

You are the one that decided to make this issue personal, not me. I am more than willing to accept the way you feel about things, but you are not willing to accept others for who they are. That is your problem.

And you have no right to question my Cypriotness. I do not question yours.

What the hell have YOU or your family done for Cyprus?

Do you want to know why I go on and on about Evagoras Pallikaridi. Well, here is a newsflash for you little boy. He is from my father's village. But there is a much deeper reason than that. He is also a blood relative. And it bloody hurts when some dumb Brits or Cypriots like Bananiot call him a terrorist. This is why I staunchly defend him like nothing else. He is a part of me and I am so proud of what he did. Back then, men were men and not little boys or drama queens that you have become. So I ask you again, what have YOU or your family done?

During the coup and assassination attempt against the President, Makarios fled by helicopter to Paphos. Amongst his inner circle supporters was my Uncle (my mother’s brother). My Uncle Andreas Pantelis, a PHD Physicist, helped organise the infamous radio broadcast along with other well known figures. He was on the EOKA B assassination list - a wanted man just like many other staunch Makarios supporters. My uncle is still alive today, and lives in Paphos. He became a career school teacher and head master. But despite his experience with EOKA B and The Greek Junta, he does not hold any grudge against Greece or the Greek people. He still thinks I have strange tastes in Cypriot soccer teams (Apoel) and he loathes this aspect of me, but that is about it. I am proud of him as well. Where was YOUR family when all this was happening?

During the Turkish Invasion, my father in law was captured in a CNG uniform. He was caught behind the lines, along with others and there was no escape. They sent him to Adana Prison, where he was incarcerated for about 3 months. He endured constant beatings, starvation and interrogations. Where was YOUR family when all this was happening?

Oh I forgot, your family was fleeing from the Turkish Advance. You can still hear the air raid sirens ringing in your ears. Well guess what? My mother in law also fled the advance along with her daughter (my wife) who she grabbed from the cot, while her husband was in the hands of the Turkish Army and who were pointing a gun to his head.

Does you family have any missing? Because my in laws do. Do your research, and find out how many of the missing hail from Kythrea and Mia Milia.

Everyone suffered, some more than others.

You should visit my relative's grave in The Nicosia Prison. He has the kind of impact which may connect you to your roots.

So yes, I have seen my fair share. And just because I live in Australia does not make me any less Cypriot than anyone else.

When was the last time you volunteered for anything in your life? Probably never. Well I did, and as a result I have travelled to the 5 continents. No one forced me into doing anything.

So how much more "patriotic" are you than me?

You have no right to judge me because you know nothing about me. But if you insist on making this personal, then I am afraid you have a fight on your hands.



Bafidis; you forgot that GR is indeed a hero - of sorts. One that boasts of capturing a TC shepherd allegedly a spy - single handedly. Me thinks you picked on the wrong man. :lol:

Come on you guys. You are both Cypriots for crying out loud. Greece did its best during 1974. ( on two counts). We all know Greece' hands were tied, they could do no more.
Its about time you kissed and made up.
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Postby T_C » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:01 pm

:lol:

I wasn't even trying to "unfocus" GR. Had it not been for Greece, would the GCs have been so hell bent on Enosis? And had it not been for Greece, would they not have preffered independence? That's the way I see it...
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Postby Floda » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:03 pm

How sad to see two members, so well assimilated in the past, become so suddenly adverse.

Both of these members have made such valuable contributions and stood firmly by them, such a pity that certain other members will now be glorifying in the rift thas has apparently developed between them.

Gentlemen, I urge you to come to terms with your differences, lest our ranks be weakened by those who relish the prospect of 'A Chink in our Armour'. :wink:
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:09 pm

I for one am not gloating. It indeed saddens me as it is people like the two here we have to negotiate a settlement with. What hope for the TC's?
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:22 pm

DT. wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DT. wrote:I bet you're all sorry you put up such a fight to bring him back now :lol:

Yeah, Ricco is better off in ATCA...


I'm starting to think you invented the entire Eric Dayi persona. Its all coming together now :shock:

What a feeble attempt to discredit the undicreditable! (<- you like?) 8)
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