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[Nikephoros]

It is high time that Greek Cypriots lived up to their responsibilites.

The ELDYK forces on Cyprus prior to the invasion(after the Greek brigade left) were harrassed by leftists. The leftist Greek Cypriot population and political parties formed paramiliary forces oppossed to the National Guard and its supporters. Prior to Turkey invading the ELDYK and National Guard had to teach a good lesson to the leftist milita men and this why he complains to this day:

…yet they were never prepared to militarily confront Turkey despite clear warnings from all that their maneuvers were nothing short of catastrophic, so what was the point of this stupidity which ended up enslaving 37% of Cypriot territory?

Most of the complaining is honestly because of the hiding their ancestors took from the National Guard and ELDYK.

Another country and the international community cannot help those who cannot help themselves.

[Get Real!]

It is high time that Greek Cypriots lived up to their responsibilites.

The ELDYK forces on Cyprus prior to the invasion(after the Greek brigade left) were harrassed by leftists. The leftist Greek Cypriot population and political parties formed paramiliary forces oppossed to the National Guard and its supporters. Prior to Turkey invading the ELDYK and National Guard had to teach a good lesson to the leftist milita men and this why he complains to this day:

…yet they were never prepared to militarily confront Turkey despite clear warnings from all that their maneuvers were nothing short of catastrophic, so what was the point of this stupidity which ended up enslaving 37% of Cypriot territory?

Most of the complaining is honestly because of the hiding their ancestors took from the National Guard and ELDYK.

Another country and the international community cannot help those who cannot help themselves.

What leftist this and leftist that are you talking about you incompetent goofball?

[yialousa1971]

Get Real are you for real? The invasion was planned long before 1974,

And your point being what that it's justified? If it makes you feel any better we can always pretend that we planned to attack Rhodes from 1263... happy?

I don't think the Greeks from Rhodes would be too happy about your stupid idea.

And what makes you think the Cypriots were happy about Greece's stupid idea in 1974?

Where did I say it was justified? The invasion was planned long before 1974 like the the break up of Yugoslavia. Ask Kissinger he was one of the key players.

[Get Real!]

Get Real are you for real? The invasion was planned long before 1974,

And your point being what that it's justified? If it makes you feel any better we can always pretend that we planned to attack Rhodes from 1263... happy?

I don't think the Greeks from Rhodes would be too happy about your stupid idea.

And what makes you think the Cypriots were happy about Greece's stupid idea in 1974?

Where did I say it was justified? The invasion was planned long before 1974 like the the break up of Yugoslavia. Ask Kissinger he was one of the key players.

And what has that got to do with the fact that Greece should face up to her responsibilities???

[Nikephoros]

Goof ball you make a post writing:

…yet they were never prepared to militarily confront Turkey despite clear warnings from all that their maneuvers were nothing short of catastrophic, so what was the point of this stupidity which ended up enslaving 37% of Cypriot territory?

In Greek Cypriot society there was massive strife between Cypriotist leftists supporting AKEL(and other leftist parties) and the pro-Enosis camp who knew and never forgot their Greek identity. Leftists tended to avoid the National Guard service and instead man the leftist Epikouri milita loyal to Makarios and the leftist parties.

Before Turkey invaded Makarios and the Cypriotist wanted to reduce the National Guard manpower:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=10586
... "On the 1st of July 1974 the Cypriot Government decides to pass a law lowering the duration of conscription from 14 to 24 months. For the date of the application of this law they choose the date of the 20th of July (I wonder if this was an accident that this was the date of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus?)" ...
"This would have reduced the strength of the National Guard on that date to something like 5,000 men in peactime. The Turkish Cypriot enclave of Lefkosa-Agyrtas alone had 3,500 men directed from Turkish officers, and their strength(Turkish Cypriot) mounts up to 20,000 in the whole of Cyprus." ...

Source:
Χάντζος, Δημήτριος. Κύπρος '74 μια νίκη απωλεσθείσα. Εκδ. Κυρομάνος (Θεσσαλονίκη; 2000) pp. 37-39.

This prompted the National Guard to hit the Rasputin of Cyprus, Makarios and the leftist loser ancestors of yours all across the island. This is why your tribe whines Greece junta allowed the Turkish invasion till this day and "Where was Greece".

Damn well you leftist lizards know that you are too busy in Cypriotist Commie fantasy land. You will not defend yourself from external threats you expect Greece to do this for you, even while you fight Greece. You also expect the international community to fight the battles and defend the land which you barely will fight for.

[yialousa1971]

Get Real are you for real? The invasion was planned long before 1974,

And your point being what that it's justified? If it makes you feel any better we can always pretend that we planned to attack Rhodes from 1263... happy?

I don't think the Greeks from Rhodes would be too happy about your stupid idea.

And what makes you think the Cypriots were happy about Greece's stupid idea in 1974?

Where did I say it was justified? The invasion was planned long before 1974 like the the break up of Yugoslavia. Ask Kissinger he was one of the key players.

And what has that got to do with the fact that Greece should face up to her responsibilities???

Get Real
Stop answing a question with a question, where did I say it was justified?

[Get Real!]

Goof ball you make a post writing:

…yet they were never prepared to militarily confront Turkey despite clear warnings from all that their maneuvers were nothing short of catastrophic, so what was the point of this stupidity which ended up enslaving 37% of Cypriot territory?

In Greek Cypriot society there was massive strife between Cypriotist leftists supporting AKEL(and other leftist parties) and the pro-Enosis camp who knew and never forgot their Greek identity. Leftists tended to avoid the National Guard service and instead man the leftist Epikouri milita loyal to Makarios and the leftist parties.

Before Turkey invaded Makarios and the Cypriotist wanted to reduce the National Guard manpower:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=10586
... "On the 1st of July 1974 the Cypriot Government decides to pass a law lowering the duration of conscription from 14 to 24 months. For the date of the application of this law they choose the date of the 20th of July (I wonder if this was an accident that this was the date of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus?)" ...
"This would have reduced the strength of the National Guard on that date to something like 5,000 men in peactime. The Turkish Cypriot enclave of Lefkosa-Agyrtas alone had 3,500 men directed from Turkish officers, and their strength(Turkish Cypriot) mounts up to 20,000 in the whole of Cyprus." ...

Source:
Χάντζος, Δημήτριος. Κύπρος '74 μια νίκη απωλεσθείσα. Εκδ. Κυρομάνος (Θεσσαλονίκη; 2000) pp. 37-39.

This prompted the National Guard to hit the Rasputin of Cyprus, Makarios and the leftist loser ancestors of yours all across the island. This is why your tribe whines Greece junta allowed the Turkish invasion till this day and "Where was Greece".

Damn well you leftist lizards know that you are too busy in Cypriotist Commie fantasy land. You will not defend yourself from external threats you expect Greece to do this for you, even while you fight Greece. You also expect the international community to fight the battles and defend the land which you barely will fight for.

Τι σκατα μας λες ρε?

You think you’re in a Kafenio somewhere in Paphos and you can throw around some left-this and right-that ABSOLUTE BOLLOCKS and impress some old geezer who can’t point to Cyprus on a map? Ha?

You think you can ever justify with left/right bollocks the spineless Greek treason of Cyprus and excuse them from their responsibilities???

[Nikephoros]

I get my info from much more serious sources than your second hand leftist myths.

To illustrate your stupidity you copy and paste the following:

Early in July, Makarios wrote to the president of Greece demanding that the remaining 650 Greek officers assigned to the National Guard be withdrawn. He also accused the junta of plotting against his life and against the government of Cyprus.

Then you kafenio rant the following:

…yet they[They being Greece; not We leftist Cypriotists who can do no wrong] were never prepared to militarily confront Turkey despite clear warnings from all that their maneuvers were nothing short of catastrophic, so what was the point of this stupidity which ended up enslaving 37% of Cypriot territory?

These spineless cowards made a complete mess of Cyprus and run away as if nothing had happened and three decades on Greece now even pretends that there’s no problem on Cyprus and has even started parlaying with Turkey to safeguard “her” interests!

I mean wtf! Do you have any dignity. So what you think you can ask for ELDYK to leave Cyprus, for Makarios to sabotage the National Guard, for Rasputin to invite in a UN Speech no less for Turkey to invade!

Then you ask where was the Greece which you leftist Cypriotists hated so much to oppose the Turkish invasion!

[Get Real!]

I get my info from much more serious sources than your second hand leftist myths.

To illustrate your stupidity you copy and paste the following:

Early in July, Makarios wrote to the president of Greece demanding that the remaining 650 Greek officers assigned to the National Guard be withdrawn. He also accused the junta of plotting against his life and against the government of Cyprus.

Then you kafenio rant the following:

…yet they[They being Greece; not We leftist Cypriotists who can do no wrong] were never prepared to militarily confront Turkey despite clear warnings from all that their maneuvers were nothing short of catastrophic, so what was the point of this stupidity which ended up enslaving 37% of Cypriot territory?

These spineless cowards made a complete mess of Cyprus and run away as if nothing had happened and three decades on Greece now even pretends that there’s no problem on Cyprus and has even started parlaying with Turkey to safeguard “her” interests!

I mean wtf! Do you have any dignity. So what you think you can ask for ELDYK to leave Cyprus, for Makarios to sabotage the National Guard, for Rasputin to invite in a UN Speech no less for Turkey to invade!

Then you ask where was the Greece which you leftist Cypriotists hated so much to oppose the Turkish invasion!

Makarios asked you stupid fucks to LEAVE, not to cause a fucking coup!

You should’ve told Makarios that Greeks can only hear through their rear ends and that way he would’ve shoved a loudspeaker up their butts to get his message across! Is that what the problem was?

[Nikephoros]

Makarios asked you stupid fucks to LEAVE, not to cause a fucking coup!

You should’ve told Makarios that Greeks can only hear through their rear ends and that way he would’ve shoved a loudspeaker up their butts to get his message across! Is that what the problem was?

Makarios also asked Turkey to invade at the UN! I mean sure why not Turkey just wanted to make a covert jihad against Christians in Cyprus, the TSK left Makarios pretty and and in power. This is something that the the National Guard, ELDYK and Ioannies supporters would not have done as they attacked Rasputin in his palace, they went after Rasputin and his followers. So it was a "smart"( and digusting) move on Makarios's part to ask for Turkey to intervene with an invasion at the UN, but for Greek Cypriots to support him and his historic diplomacy is stupid(but Greek cypriot is not mature about external politics and evaluating history).

Makarios also used to be a fervent champion of enosis of before converting to the most ardent Cypriotist. Rasputin(Makarios) also would sell his own mother for money and power.

Loser you are condoning that Makarios asked the Greek military to leave Cyprus and then wondering why the Greece you hate did not save you from the problem that your leftist incompetent ancestors caused not Greece. I mean Greek politicans do not know how to handle a fanatic muslim country like Turkey either, but the Greek Cypriots take the pie.