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[detailer]

We are already under inhumane sactions my friends(worse than north korea, worse than iraq previously)

Why don you remind yourself the rights stolen from Turkish in 63-74?

TC had too much difficulty in making any investment in that period. Maybe that land is a good compensation. what do you think?

[garbitsch]

Guys I am studying here in London and I enjoy free healthcare. Can somebody tell me how should I pay for this "free" healthcare back? Piratis, please tell me, I really want to pay for the "free" healthcare I enjoy here in UK...

p.s.: I will never ever go to South to be treated freely. They will always hit this on our face. "We give you free healthcare, but you should pay for it bla bla bla"...

[magikthrill]

lol garb what kind of thinking is that?

apparently you guys are already getting 'badgered" so you might as well get the perks for this either way and get your healthcare going on.

[Piratis]

Can somebody tell me how should I pay for this "free" healthcare back? Piratis, please tell me, I really want to pay for the "free" healthcare I enjoy here in UK...

Do you go to the UK just for the health care, while the rest of time you rip off UK by stealing from other UK citizens? Don't you pay the taxes there (do you ask for the sales people to deduct that 17% VAT for you?), do you grossly violate all UK laws and instead of sending you to jail they give you free health care?

[magikthrill]

We are already under inhumane sactions my friends(worse than north korea, worse than iraq previously)

Why don you remind yourself the rights stolen from Turkish in 63-74?

TC had too much difficulty in making any investment in that period. Maybe that land is a good compensation. what do you think?

I dont think much of it but you can try and use that argument in the ECHR. Maybe it will work. What do YOU think?

[gabaston]

Garbitsch as you know evry time you or your family pay rent, or tuition fees, or buss fare, or buy cigarettes, or a drink, or go to a cinema, or rent a porno-video, and every other time you part with your cash, you are paying for your free health-care.

Expensive init?

[erolz]

Expensive init?

Not compared with private healthcare

The fact is that there is no system of providing healthcare that provides more treament per pound (dollar yen lira etc etc) spent than socialised public healthcare (as typified by the UK NHS).

[gabaston]

Erolz

OK how about this example?

last year in London i paid x amount in tax right-
In london we got free health care right -
OK so I went to Istanbul last summer just to pay a f fortune for health care.

Does that tell you something about health care in the UK?


Free health care? - Not even Tony Blair would try and claim British health care is free. It is probably amongst the most expensive in the world.

[erolz]

Free health care? - Not even Tony Blair would try and claim British health care is free. It is probably amongst the most expensive in the world.

Nobody claims it is free - just free at the point of delivery. Despite what you may think there is no system anywhere in the world that delivers more treatment per pound spent that the NHS. The less adminstration, tracking, managment and profit there is in a healthcare system the more money there is to be spent on treatment. This is born out by every financial assment of the NHS and by common sense. Of course the current UK government is trying to make public healthcare as 'inefficent' (in terms of the amount of treatment delivered for every piound put in) as private healthcare by adding layer after layer of adminstrations and bean counters and other stuff that does not treat patients, in order to make private healthcare more 'competetive' on this crucial measure (health care delivered per pound spent). Even despite this the NHS still manages to provide more treatment per piound spent than any private system anywhere in the world. Certainly the NHS has many problems and many faults - but financial efficeny in terms of treatment delivered per pound spent is not one of them.

[gabaston]

erolz

you may be right

the problem with our nhs was it has now grown to be a nightmare of administration. We cant seem to get nurses, or doctors, and worse still, because it is, as you rightly point out "free at delivery point" it gets abused by thousands if not millions, people try to get doctors notes and certificates, in order to go and abuse another part of our so called free social service sector, and the administration of that becomes another nightmare, and so on ...................................

Also do you know about the health care holidays that are now being opperated in Britain, like have a holiday in Greece or Turkey and have your health care. If our system is that good why are we looking outside the UK for treatment.

I take some of your points and suggest your english is excellent, so i assume you have lived in Britain.