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[Bananiot]

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[Viewpoint]

There are no countries where after a war the distribution of land is based on population ratios, it is agreed by the victor and the rest of the world or alternatively between the victor and loser who wishes to cut its loses and save what it has left.

We have in place now division recognized or not left unnegotiated it will either remain as is or be recognized over time.

VP, let me re-explain to you once more a few things that zucchinis and cucumbers like Bananiot and Copperline will never be able to explain to you.
We, Greek Cypriots, have been existing on this island -the whole of it and in all 4 corners of it, for more than 4,000 years. During all these thousands of years, we have come under many “victorious” of war occupiers. Some of them have even stayed as “victorious” rulers, for much longer than your ottoman “motherland,” the “sick man of Europe,” have stayed. The Assyrians had come and stayed for 300 years, but in the end we have swallowed them, they disappeared and we have stayed and continued here. The Phoenicians, the same! The Persians, too, for 400 years! The Egyptians, likewise! The Romans, the Franks, the Lusignans and the Venetians! All of them came, stayed for even longer than your ottoman ancestors and their remnants, and then either left, disappeared or we have swallowed and digested them, but we survived and have stayed here, as the undisputed overwhelming majority. Most of them do not even exist today, just like one day you will also disappear, and just like we will survive you too, and stay here, because it is written in history and in our DNA, to sustain, survive and overcome many rulers in this country that is ours!

Those you were able to swallow upas you put it because they were mixed in with general population but what you have now is a different situation, losing 37% of Cyprus and rapid growth of Turks in the north will in 10 20 years time too big a population to assimilate, it will be there other way around and Turks 2 million will swallow you whole and your 4000 year history will be wiped clean away. We have accepted that TCs if the current situation continues will gradually diminish and disappear our numbers are to small to resist but for us its a return to our roots which are Turkish but this is not the case for you GCs who will face the flood of Turks who will gradually move south firstly for work and then infiltrate your stagnant population, who knows you may end up with Turks as members of you immediate family pretty soon.

You can maintain your current mentality and see things unfold or you can wake to the fact that TCs will not be around forever you will find that the generation on this will not share any commonality with you and even view you as bloody foreigners who have no right on this island then we will all witness who will swallow who up. I have the chance to interact with the second generation settlers in the north and they bare no feeling or closeness to GCs they view them as gavurs and dont give a shit for unification and certainly do not want to live or share anything with GCs, this viewpoint will get stronger and stronger as TCs marry well educated Turks and their attitudes also change, you can choose to ignore this reality but in the long run it will be the Turks who will be victorious yet again when they swallow you whole without even burping.

[Viewpoint]

There are no countries where after a war the distribution of land is based on population ratios, it is agreed by the victor and the rest of the world or alternatively between the victor and loser who wishes to cut its loses and save what it has left.

You fucking beggars you think you are victors? Why can't you force us or the world to recognize you then? You can't even have a team playing an official international game. Your standards of living are less than half ours. Why you think you are victor? Because you illegally keep our land? That makes you a criminal fugitive and not victor. So fuck off. We will agree on nothing with you. Rot in your shit hole. Lets see if you can force me to change my mind "victor"

You ignorant bastard, you are the current day eoka terrorist bloody scum.

[Viewpoint]

There are no countries where after a war the distribution of land is based on population ratios, it is agreed by the victor and the rest of the world or alternatively between the victor and loser who wishes to cut its loses and save what it has left.

Problem is the GCs had beaten you to a pulp according to your cries, in fact so bad was your defeat you even call it a “genocide”, and you needed to get someone else to do the fighting for you... someone 100 times larger than your enemy! So who is the victor?

Survival of the fittest remember? Obey the natural selection process VP and quit farting around!

You are right we were beaten to a pulp during 1963 to 1974 but luckily for us you were stupid enough to provide the situation for Turkey to kick you shitless and create a situation where we are a zillion times better off than being under the times you were beating us to a pulp.

We survived under far worse conditions, 45 years of your isolation and persecution antics have not got you nowhere, we can survive this way for as long as it takes to make you see we are equal partners and treated as such or you can wait to be swallowed up by 80-100million Turks.

[Get Real!]

The bigger issue to consider is the claim of Kifeas that we Cypriots have existed on this island - the whole of it and in all 4 corners of it, for more than 4,000 years.

A desperate post...

[Get Real!]

There are no countries where after a war the distribution of land is based on population ratios, it is agreed by the victor and the rest of the world or alternatively between the victor and loser who wishes to cut its loses and save what it has left.

Problem is the GCs had beaten you to a pulp according to your cries, in fact so bad was your defeat you even call it a “genocide”, and you needed to get someone else to do the fighting for you... someone 100 times larger than your enemy! So who is the victor?

Survival of the fittest remember? Obey the natural selection process VP and quit farting around!

You are right we were beaten to a pulp during 1963 to 1974 but luckily for us you were stupid enough to provide the situation for Turkey to kick you shitless and create a situation where we are a zillion times better off than being under the times you were beating us to a pulp.

We survived under far worse conditions, 45 years of your isolation and persecution antics have not got you nowhere, we can survive this way for as long as it takes to make you see we are equal partners and treated as such or you can wait to be swallowed up by 80-100million Turks.

I'm glad you admitted to being beaten by the GCs... now kindly cut your losses and accept the victor's offer of 0% land!

[Oracle]

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Precisely Mr. Bananiot .... with the emphasis being on the temporary nature of the pseudopodia .....

[Viewpoint]

There are no countries where after a war the distribution of land is based on population ratios, it is agreed by the victor and the rest of the world or alternatively between the victor and loser who wishes to cut its loses and save what it has left.

Problem is the GCs had beaten you to a pulp according to your cries, in fact so bad was your defeat you even call it a “genocide”, and you needed to get someone else to do the fighting for you... someone 100 times larger than your enemy! So who is the victor?

Survival of the fittest remember? Obey the natural selection process VP and quit farting around!

You are right we were beaten to a pulp during 1963 to 1974 but luckily for us you were stupid enough to provide the situation for Turkey to kick you shitless and create a situation where we are a zillion times better off than being under the times you were beating us to a pulp.

We survived under far worse conditions, 45 years of your isolation and persecution antics have not got you nowhere, we can survive this way for as long as it takes to make you see we are equal partners and treated as such or you can wait to be swallowed up by 80-100million Turks.

I'm glad you admitted to being beaten by the GCs... now kindly cut your losses and accept the victor's offer of 0% land!

I could make some smart arse comment about 1974 but I will rise above it and say your offer has been rejected.

Let me put that we have a BBF with political equality, just like the UN and just as your leaders are negotiating?

[Bananiot]

Perhaps you missed the O between the pseudopodia Oracle, otherwise your answer would have been slightly different.

[Kifeas]

There are no countries where after a war the distribution of land is based on population ratios, it is agreed by the victor and the rest of the world or alternatively between the victor and loser who wishes to cut its loses and save what it has left.

We have in place now division recognized or not left unnegotiated it will either remain as is or be recognized over time.

VP, let me re-explain to you once more a few things that zucchinis and cucumbers like Bananiot and Copperline will never be able to explain to you.
We, Greek Cypriots, have been existing on this island -the whole of it and in all 4 corners of it, for more than 4,000 years. During all these thousands of years, we have come under many “victorious” of war occupiers. Some of them have even stayed as “victorious” rulers, for much longer than your ottoman “motherland,” the “sick man of Europe,” have stayed. The Assyrians had come and stayed for 300 years, but in the end we have swallowed them, they disappeared and we have stayed and continued here. The Phoenicians, the same! The Persians, too, for 400 years! The Egyptians, likewise! The Romans, the Franks, the Lusignans and the Venetians! All of them came, stayed for even longer than your ottoman ancestors and their remnants, and then either left, disappeared or we have swallowed and digested them, but we survived and have stayed here, as the undisputed overwhelming majority. Most of them do not even exist today, just like one day you will also disappear, and just like we will survive you too, and stay here, because it is written in history and in our DNA, to sustain, survive and overcome many rulers in this country that is ours!

Those you were able to swallow upas you put it because they were mixed in with general population but what you have now is a different situation, losing 37% of Cyprus and rapid growth of Turks in the north will in 10 20 years time too big a population to assimilate, it will be there other way around and Turks 2 million will swallow you whole and your 4000 year history will be wiped clean away. We have accepted that TCs if the current situation continues will gradually diminish and disappear our numbers are to small to resist but for us its a return to our roots which are Turkish but this is not the case for you GCs who will face the flood of Turks who will gradually move south firstly for work and then infiltrate your stagnant population, who knows you may end up with Turks as members of you immediate family pretty soon.

You can maintain your current mentality and see things unfold or you can wake to the fact that TCs will not be around forever you will find that the generation on this will not share any commonality with you and even view you as bloody foreigners who have no right on this island then we will all witness who will swallow who up. I have the chance to interact with the second generation settlers in the north and they bare no feeling or closeness to GCs they view them as gavurs and dont give a shit for unification and certainly do not want to live or share anything with GCs, this viewpoint will get stronger and stronger as TCs marry well educated Turks and their attitudes also change, you can choose to ignore this reality but in the long run it will be the Turks who will be victorious yet again when they swallow you whole without even burping.

VP, the Phoenicians, had also been able to carve a large portion of Cyprus, the SE 1/3 corner, in which they established their separate kingdoms. This separate occupation of Cyprus had lasted for 300 years, during which we were squeezed into the remaining 2/3 of our island. Where are the Phoenicians now, and where are we? The Phoenicians have come and gone to were you will also end up (disappeared,) but we are still here, like we used to be here for more than 4 millenniums. Do you know why? Because we, Greek Cypriots, and the island that is called Cyprus, are one integral and inseparable unit! We are the nature of Cyprus, and Cyprus is the nature of us! We are the indigenous inhabitants, and like you, the Phoenicians for 300 years, the Persians for 400 years, the Arabs for 300 years, the Egyptians, the Assyrians, the Saracens, the Romans, the Franks, the Venetians, the British and the Ottomans, you are all foreign elements, outside and strange to the nature of Cyprus. That is why you all come and go, disappear; but we remain here, survive, swallow, consume and digest you. This is what the history tells everybody, because this is the nature of Cyprus! Because this is the will of God and nature!

Cheer up and celebrate, because you think you won a war! All the above mentioned, had also won wars against us, and occupied part or all of Cyprus, for much longer than you have done the last time. In the end, where are they, and where are we? What is 35 years that passed since 1974, in front of the 300 and 400 years that many of the above invaders and occupiers have stayed? Nothing! In the end, we survived, and they disappeared! You are not simply fighting another people! You are in fact fighting nature itself, and no human can put up with nature! In the end, nature will win!

You either become friends with us, if you want to survive on this island, or otherwise, well, your destine is …pre-determined! It is written in golden letters on each stone in this country!