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Postby michalis5354 » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:46 pm

Australia is known for its powerful diplomacy and has built strong alliances over the last 50+ years. We have changes in Government, but our national interests, diplomacy and Foreign Affairs are static and stable. Can you say the same about Cyprus? Confused


Yes we can say the same thing . Cyprus might be small but do not underestimate the location of the island . closed proximity to 3 huge regions Africa , Middle East , Europe and Russia. It can play an effective role in the region once a settlement is reached. In 1 hour flight you can travel in 3 regions this is a key advantage for any business and service.

A settlement might not be perfect but no country has a perfect democracy Coruption is everywhere. And BTW many african countries are functioning under a unitary state and 1 man and 1 vote and this does not mean they have democracy. Anyone need to be realist.
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Postby Nikephoros » Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:33 pm

Bananiot wrote:I am trying to put my feet into my "enemy’s" shoe. This is because I understand that Cyprus will only be free if we together work out a solution to our long standing issue. This is the only way we can get rid of the occupation and all those that propose any other path to freedom (waiting for the balance of power to change etc) are the real grave diggers of our island. War is not a solution even if we had the power to engage because a war only prepares the ground for the next one.

Thus, if I were Turkey, this is what I would have to put up with had Greece decided to extend its territorial water to 12 nautical miles:

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I wonder, can Piratis, GR, Paphitis ever put themselves in the shoes of their adversary?



NO!!!!!!!

LEFTIST TWIT, what you are doing is:

1) accepting the Turkish claim

2) assuming it true

3) now that it is true, let us find how to compromise to make peace with these claims

Bananut you are the worst expression of the satiric political views vis a vis Turkey, TRNC, Turkish Cypriot, that the left in Cyprus has created with their idiocy. Bananut if you are alive today, it is because there are actually people willing to fight to be Greek and defend their homes and lands. Something reasonable compromising idiots such as you cannot fathom.
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Postby Nikephoros » Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:57 pm

Get Real! wrote:If Cyprus is Greek why are you not liberating her? No guts no glory I’m afraid…


Leftist twat from Cyprus:

Would you like me to scan pictures for you of me and my grandmother at my paternal and maternal villages?

I go to my homeland whenever I want, and do what I please.

On the contrary loser leftist twat of Cyprus, because the stupidity of your leftist tribe, how many of countryment only visit their ancestral villages and homes only when:

1) Hasan, Mehmet, Aydin (imagine a lot more turkish first names...)

2) When the international community

3) blah blah

allow you to.

Do you even think you are funny? When someone is telling you that they are Peloponnesian, and that they make it known that they feel Cyprus used to and still should be a island dominated by Greeks, with a smaller Turkish minority, Yet, now [how many]of your stupid dodo bird leftish tribe, have to ask Serdac, Dogan, Burak, if you can visit the home you used to occuppy?

So how can you make fun of ridicule someone like me?

LEFTISH CYPRIOT CYPRIOTS GROW UP!

SINCE MY HOMELAND IS LIBERATED, I CROSS NO TURKISH BORDER. ASK NO DIRTY SUNNI MOSLEM FOR ADVICE ON HOW TO VISIT MY FAMILY'S HOME.

AND YOU, GET REAL, TRY TO GET REAL!!!!!!! Your leftish tribe, is the only "no guts, no glory" around here, not mine.
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Postby Piratis » Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:39 pm

Bananiot wrote:I am trying to put my feet into my "enemy’s" shoe. This is because I understand that Cyprus will only be free if we together work out a solution to our long standing issue. This is the only way we can get rid of the occupation and all those that propose any other path to freedom (waiting for the balance of power to change etc) are the real grave diggers of our island. War is not a solution even if we had the power to engage because a war only prepares the ground for the next one.

Thus, if I were Turkey, this is what I would have to put up with had Greece decided to extend its territorial water to 12 nautical miles:

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I wonder, can Piratis, GR, Paphitis ever put themselves in the shoes of their adversary?



Do we make any claims over Turkey Bananiot? So why the Turks should have any claims over the Aegean or Cyprus? Greece and Cyprus want to exercise their sovereignty over land and sea that belongs to them. Nothing more. So what is your problem?

We don't war. The wars are made by the Turks who want to take what belongs to us. When you are attacked you have no other choice from fighting to defend yourself.

Maybe Greece should start having claims over parts of Asia Minor? Definitely the Greeks would have much more basis for such claims, than the Turks can have over the Aegean or Cyprus.
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Postby Piratis » Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:44 pm

Leftist twat from Cyprus


This has nothing to do with any ideologies. There are "leftists" and "rightists" in every country of the world. In fact in Cyprus the far right and the far left (e.i. the extremists) seem to agree on the "solution" they want.
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Postby Nikephoros » Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:47 pm

Piratis as usual, you are argumentative to be argumentative. Instead of looking at what tactics your intelocutor is usings, you are responding emotionally to his falsehoods.

Bananut leftist wrote:I am trying to put my feet into my "enemy’s" shoe.


Then he proceeds to state Turkish official thesis over the Aegean that Turkey created against Greece. This is what he alleges as "putting himself into Turkish shoes".

BANANUT TAKE OFF THE TURKISH SHOES FOR ONCE LOSER. The Turkish shoe just make you accept all hudna(false peace), and takiyye(lies) of Sunni Muslim Turks!
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Postby DT. » Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:48 pm

Nikephoros wrote:Piratis as usual, you are argumentative to be argumentative. Instead of looking at what tactics your intelocutor is usings, you are responding emotionally to his falsehoods.

Bananut leftist wrote:I am trying to put my feet into my "enemy’s" shoe.[/b]

Then he proceeds to state Turkish official thesis over the Aegean that Turkey created against Greece. This is what alleges is "putting himself into Turkish shoes".

BANANUT TAKE OFF THE TURKISH SHOES FOR ONCE LOSER. The Turkish shoe just make you accept all hudna(false peace), and takiyye(lies) of Sunni Muslim Turks!


You're too erratic to follow or make sense. Calm the hell down and explain yourself without resorting to childish name calling.
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Postby Nikephoros » Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:52 pm

DT. wrote:You're too erratic to follow or make sense. Calm the hell down and explain yourself without resorting to childish name calling.


Every post of Bananut can be sum up of using the follow tactic:

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Bananut leftist wrote:I am trying to put my feet into my "enemy’s" shoe.


Then he proceeds to state Turkish theses that Turkey created against Hellenism. This is what he alleges as "putting himself into Turkish shoes".
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Then how many of your laughish tribe, proceed to be argumentative with what he says in an emotional way, instead of looking as his tactic, method, pattern. IE: being argumentative to be argumentative (Describes too many Greeks.)
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:19 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:We are Hellenised, but also independant. Just like Australia is Anglo Saxon, but not England.

So what you’re basically saying is…

Greece gets the credit for everything Cypriot but without any responsibility of protecting her!

If there’s nothing in it for Cypriots why would anyone be so stupid to do that? It doesn’t work like that my friend. As I said… no guts no glory and it's high time you all realised it.

Greece is also unable to provide the assistance you require without the risk of losing a few islands at the very least. So why would Greece be expected to make such a sacrifice for Cyprus? :? Don't you think you are asking for a bit too much?

You are no less treasonous or stupid than Miltiades so bugger off before you really piss me off. Read my PM and believe it.


I think you have really lost the plot.... Very sad!

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Postby Bananiot » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:25 pm

Piratis has said this a hundred times:

In fact in Cyprus the far right and the far left (e.i. the extremists) seem to agree on the "solution" they want.


Let us see, again for the hundredth time:

Sillouris, Koutsou, Stylianos Pattakos, Denktash, the deep state of Turkey, Siros (EOKA B second in command), all of these and many more of the same ... calibre voted (or supported the "NO" campaign) against solution in 2004 and in effect elected to keep the Turkish army in Cyprus for ever.

On the contrary, people like Takis Hadjimichael, Takis Hadjigeorgiou, Glafkos Klerides, Nikos Anastasiades, George Vasiliou, Mustafa Akinci, my friends Kemal, Halil and Mustafa, Niazi Kizilyurek, Neshe Yiasin and many others, voted for solution.

Here you are. You have in front of you two lists of people and I ask you to tell me which list contains the extremists.

I told you before Piratis. You create your own daemons and you fight them. You excuse yourself by promising to wait for another 1000 years if you have to, for the balance of power to change in our favour in order to liberate our lands. You cover your rhetoric with a thin coat of patriotism and you think you are home and dry. I think Mikkie gave a good answer to this dangerous obsession of yours and I do not need to add anything else.

Nikephoros can go to hell. I have been fighting throughout my adult life fascists of his kind who just happened to be born Greek. Had he been a Turk he would have been a Grey Woolf. They are all the same.
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