metecyp wrote:What's your problem? Are you imported too?
My problem is your ignorance. It's very easy to call a group of people "imported gypsies", isn't it?
Mete, It's not difficult aaaaat all!
It's very easy, they are illegal settlers nothing more nothing less. They were shiped to Cyprus and they were imported in Cyprus. After seeing how and the way they live the word "gypsies" doesn't actually reflect reality. ...and the worst part is that those gypsies were given the Cypriot nationality.
Mr Jaakko Laakso's report says everything very clear:
The problem of the settlers from Turkey: a report by the Council of Europe (1992-2003)
The influx of migrants from Turkey to Northern Cyprus between 1975 and 1977 has been the most notable demographic occurrence in Cyprus since 1974, according to Council of Europe rapporteur, Alfons Cucó
The Turkish Cypriot administration strongly denies that Turks immigrated from mainland Turkey have reached or exceeded half of the population in the north
The vast majority of the settlers were peasants and shepherds from Anatolia who moved into villages that had been abandoned by Greek Cypriots
The aim of the Turkish-Cypriot Administration's policy towards the settlers has been to promote their permanent establishment on the island
Over the years the growing numbers of the Turkish settlers and the role that some of them play in political life have created concerns within the Turkish-Cypriot community.
The demographic structure of the population has further been modified by the presence of the Turkish army in the northern part of Cyprus
In 2003, the Council of Europe expressed its concern at the continuous outflow of the indigenous Turkish Cypriot population from the northern part. Their number decreased from 118 000 in 1974 to an estimated 87 600 in 2001.
"For many years it was difficult to get reliable demographic information from the north, though the Council of Europe made an attempt in 1992 through a Spanish expert Alfons Cucó. He reported that the northern population had risen between 1974 and 1990 from 115,728 to 171,500, a growth rate which could only be accounted for by considerable immigration from mainland Turkey, especially in view of the sizeable numbers of Turkish Cypriots known to have left the island, though some of these have returned. A census taken in 1996 by the northern authorities shows the population reaching 198,215. This had led to the assertion, strongly denied by the Turkish Cypriot authorities, that mainland Turks have either reached or have been exceeded half the population of the north. The removal of this substantial element of the north's current population as well as of Turkish forces have been a consistent Greek Cypriot demand, though there is some willingness to make allowances for people born in north Cyprus and for mixed marriages. According to the Cyprus Government most of these mainlanders have been there for over 20 years; as for the rest, there is, they say, a considerable flow back and forth between north Cyprus and Turkey but applicants for 'naturalization' are not eligible until after five years' residence." (Kyle December 1997, p. 26)
Cuco report on the demographic structure of Cyprus (1992)
"Everyone admits that, since 1975, Turkish nationals have arrived in the northern part of Cyprus. For some people they are part of a smallish migratory movement, for others they constitute regular colonisation. If from now on, I use the term "settler" to describe these persons it is because, from the evidence I received, they actually came to settle and work in a depopulated area.
Both parties admit that two particularly large waves arrived in 1975 and 1977. They were probably massive, as even taking the lowest estimates, they represented the arrival of a group making up more than 10% of the Turkish-Cypriot population at that time. The Turkish army also moved in permanently at that juncture. Since then, there has been a smaller, but steady flow, although it has lad less impact on the total population, owing to the simultaneous emigration of Turkish Cypriots
It is also agreed that the Turkish settlers fall into two main categories. The vast majority are peasants and shepherds, whose life in the north of Cyprus is similar to the one they were leading in Anatolia. The other category comprises managers, businessmen and retired Turkish army officers. They are a minority who nonetheless seem to exert considerable influence on the ruling class of Turkish Cypriots.
I was not personally able to see whether the settlers had moved into particular villages. According to Professor Heinritz [Institut für Geographie, Technische Universitäat, Munich, Germany] and Professor Brey [Südosteuropa-Gesellschaft, Munich, Germany], the population movements that followed the events of 1974 could have depopulated some villages in the north. During their visits to the northern part of Cyprus, the two professors were able to determine that this was not the case and that the settlers had moved into villages that had been abandoned by Greek Cypriots.
Especially in these villages, the settlers had preserved their original social, economic and cultural characteristics and were therefore viewed as foreign elements by a number of Turkish Cypriots. Some of the people I spoke to even claimed that the settlers were moved by religious fundamentalism, which would cause tension between the settlers and the Turkish Cypriots. The latter, who were more open to the European way of thinking, were laxer in their religious observance. This tension was likely to turn into real animosity.
As the Turkish ambassador in Nicosia indicated, there is no consular register of Turkish nationals in Cyprus. Nevertheless, it must not be assumed from this that there are no contacts between the settlers and the Turkish authorities. Most of the settlers were transferred to Cyprus as the result of a decision of the Turkish authorities and so they feel indebted for their present situation. For this reason, according to some of the people I spoke with, they are particularly sensitive to signals from the Turkish authorities, especially at election time. The elite of the settlers are said to be highly susceptible to Turkish influence. Some people even claimed that the Turkish embassy was behind the setting-up of the Revival Party, the settlers' chief political grouping.
The aim of the Turkish-Cypriot Administration's policy towards the settlers has been to promote their permanent establishment on the island. The settlers are granted housing, land or other properties on special terms. They are issued with a 'concession certificate' which they are not entitled to sell or pass on to a third party until a period of twenty years has elapsed.
Nevertheless, the most important measure for the settlers has been the possibility of acquiring Turkish-Cypriot nationality. In 1975, the Turkish-Cypriot Administration passed Act No. 3/1975, under which nationality could be given to anyone who requested it and, in particular, to members of the Turkish armed forces who had served in Cyprus, the wives, children and brothers of members of these forces who had fallen in Cyprus between 20 July 1974 and 20 August 1974 or to persons who had served in the Turkish Resistance Organisation in Cyprus or Turkey.
In 1981, a regulation on the acquisition of the nationality of the state in exceptional cases supplemented these provisions. This text provides for the granting of Turkish-Cypriot nationality to persons permanently resident in the northern part of Cyprus for at least one year, to persons who have made or who could make an important contribution to the economy, to those who have contributed to social and cultural life, the development of external relations or the raising of the standard of education and to all those who have rendered services the continuation of which is vital to the security forces. Proof must, however, be supplied in all cases. One of the last provisions of this regulation also permits the granting of nationality to any person, when the authorities consider this to be necessary.
For the settlers, a whole series of political rights were attendant on the acquisition of nationality. The most important of these rights is undoubtedly the right to vote. At first the settlers voted en masse for Mr Denktash's National Unity Party. Nevertheless, between 1978 and 1981 some small political parties came into being (Turkish Unity Party, Reform and Prosperity Party and Social Justice Party). They were strongly flavoured with Turkish nationalism and quite openly proclaimed their intention to build a Turkish nation. Their poor showing at various elections furthered the emergence of a new party, at the instigation (according to some people) of the Turkish authorities. As I said earlier, this was the Revival Party, which is in favour of maintaining the present status quo." (COE Parliamentary Assembly 27 April 1992, paras. 88-97)
"This influx of Turkish settlers has had a real impact on the structure of the population in the northern part of the island. According to the Turkish-Cypriot Administration, the population here went up from 115 600 in 1974 to 148 500 in 1979. This increase of 32 900 persons is much larger than the natural rate of increase of the population, which worked out at a mere 7 843 over that period. It is therefore the result of a net migratory movement of 25 057 persons. I have no grounds for asserting that all arrivals were Turkish settlers, but neither do I have any reason to assume that, during this period, there was no emigration by Turkish Cypriots comparable to that of the Greek Cypriots, above all to Australia, the United Kingdom and the other countries of the Commonwealth. No matter what the reasons are, a 28% surge in the population in five years is quite exceptional, wherever it occurs.
The arrival and establishment of the Turkish settlers is the most notable demographic occurrence in Cyprus since 1974. One only has to consult the statistical tables to see that chief demographic indicators (natural rate of increase of the population, marriage, divorce and infantile mortality rates) from 1974 up to the present display quite comparable trends for both communities. Only one indicator, the fertility rate, shows a substantial divergence, especially between 1975 and 1980. It is higher in the north than in the south, which confirms the effect of the settlers' arrival on the island's demography.
The two communities have different stances on the issue of the Turkish settlers. The Greek Cypriots are extremely worried about a situation which they regard as serious and accuse the Turkish-Cypriot Administration of conducting a policy to promote colonisation. In the northern part of the island, the attitude to the establishment of Turkish settlers seems to have changed considerably since 1974. While these settlers were at first seen by the vast majority of Turkish Cypriots as a vital injection of the additional manpower needed by the country, over the years their growing numbers and the role that some of them play in political life have changed initial perceptions and introduced wide divergences within the Turkish-Cypriot community.
The parties in control of the Turkish-Cypriot Administration first played down the number of settlers and then said that their presence was not a problem. The opposition parties, on the other hand, vigorously denounce the arrival of the settlers, their naturalisation and their use for electoral purposes by the ruling parties.
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In my conclusions I must also draw attention to the demographic impact of the presence of the Turkish army in the northern part of Cyprus. Even if we take the lowest estimate of a contingent of 30 000 men and a population totaling 180 000 persons, this works out at one soldier per six civilians, a ratio that must be unique in Europe." (COE Parliamentary Assembly 27 April 1992, paras. 105-112)
The situation had not improved as of 2003
In 2003, “The Rapporteur [to the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe] notes with regret that, since the last report on the subject, there has been no progress towards the demographic stabilization on the island – to the contrary. The recommendation which was adopted by the Assembly in 1992 instructed the European Population Committee of the Council of Europe to conduct a census of the island’s population, in co-operation with the authorities concerned, in order to replace population estimates with reliable data. It also requested the authorities of the Republic of Cyprus and the Turkish-Cypriot administration not to change the demographic structure of the island and to keep the arrival of aliens under control. Neither of these recommendations has been accomplished.” (CoE, Parliamentary Assembly 2 May 2003)
“It is a well-established fact that the demographic structure of the island has been continuously modified since the de facto partition of the island in 1974 as a result of the deliberate policies of the Turkish Cypriot administration and Turkey. Despite the lack of consensus on the exact figures, all parties concerned admit that Turkish nationals have been systematically arriving in the northern part of the island. According to reliable estimates, their number currently amounts to 115 000.
The settlers come mainly from the region of Anatolia, one of the less developed regions in Turkey. Their customs and traditions differ in a significant way from those in Cyprus. These differences are the main reason for the tensions and dissatisfaction of the indigenous Turkish Cypriot population who tend to view them as a foreign element.
In particular, the Assembly expresses its concern at the continuous outflow of the indigenous Turkish Cypriot population from the northern part. Their number decreased from 118 000 in 1974 to an estimated 87 600 in 2001. In consequence, the settlers outnumber the indigenous Turkish Cypriot population in the northern part of the island.
In the light of the information available, the Assembly cannot accept the claims that the majority of arriving Turkish nationals are seasonal workers or former inhabitants who had left the island before 1974. Therefore it condemns the policy of "naturalisation" designed to encourage new arrivals and introduced by the Turkish Cypriot administration with full support of the Government of Turkey.
The Assembly is convinced that the presence of the settlers constitutes a process of hidden colonisation and an additional and important obstacle to a peaceful negotiated solution of the Cyprus problem.” (CoE Parliamentary Assembly 24 June 2003, “colonization) http://www.db.idpproject.org/Sites/IdpP ... E000526F29 Why did you avoid to answer my other question, are you imported too?
Btw, why do you "talk" to me like that? I'm not your sister or your mother.
Well, you definetely sound like a 2 year old.
I sound like a 2 year old?
Exellent
... if you think that I was born just last January.
by Agios Amvrosios » Thu May 19, 2005 3:05 am 
