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FIRST VISIT BY UBP TO A GREEK CYPRIOT POLITICAL PARTY

Postby halil » Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:57 pm

Tomorrow’s visit by the Main Opposition National Unity Party will be the first visit by the right wing party to a Greek Cypriot political party since the opening of the crossing points in 2003.

It will also be the first time the Leader of the UBP Tahsin Ertugruloglu will be crossing into South Cyprus since 1972.

Mr Ertugruloglu and his DISI counterpart Nikos Anastasiadis will exchange views on the Cyprus issue during the visit.

A DISI delegation had visited UBP earlier on the 27th of May.
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Postby halil » Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:48 pm

The main opposition National Unity Party in a historic move held its first official contact in South Cyprus today.

A delegation from the UBP visited the Greek Cypriot Democratic Rally Party-DISI this morning.

It was also the first time the UBP leader Tahsin Ertugruloglu crossed into South Cyprus in 36 years.

The meeting started half an hour late due to a hold up at the Ledra Palace checkpoint after Greek Cypriot police refused to allow the UBP delegation to cross into South Cyprus with their own cars.

While, the UBP officials claimed that they had obtained the necessary permits, Greek Cypriot police said they had received no such notification.
Speaking to reporters at Ledra Palace, the UBP leader Tahsin Ertugruloglu said that it was the first time he was crossing into South Cyprus since 1972.


Ertugruloglu and his accompanying delegation were then driven to the DISI headquarters by DISI deputy Keti Kleridis.
The meeting between the two parties lasted close to two hours.

Making a joint statement after the meeting, DISI Leader Nikos Anastasiades said they had exchanged views and concerns regarding the latest developments on the Cyprus Problem.

Noting however that there were many difference of opinions between the two parties, Mr. Anastasiades said despite this fact they were in favor of continuing dialog as they believed they could find a common ground.
He also said that the National Unity Party expressed full support to the two leaders in Cyprus during the negotiations process.


Explaining that DISI supported a united Federal Cyprus that will benefit the two peoples in Cyprus within the European Union Mr. Anastasiades said that after evaluating the mistakes made in the past reconciliation could be achieved between the two sides in Cyprus.

For his part National Unity Party leader Tahsin Ertugruloglu said that they had paid a courtesy visit to DISI.

Noting that they were in favor of dialog Mr. Ertugruloglu said that the National Unity Party’s door were open to any party who wanted to meet with them.

He too noted that there were many differences between the two parties but expressed the belief that these could be overcome through dialog.
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Postby T_C » Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:02 pm

OMG! I just remembered who the UBP is! :shock:

Things really are changing by the look of things...what next?!?
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Postby DT. » Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:04 pm

halil wrote:The main opposition National Unity Party in a historic move held its first official contact in South Cyprus today.

A delegation from the UBP visited the Greek Cypriot Democratic Rally Party-DISI this morning.

It was also the first time the UBP leader Tahsin Ertugruloglu crossed into South Cyprus in 36 years.

The meeting started half an hour late due to a hold up at the Ledra Palace checkpoint after Greek Cypriot police refused to allow the UBP delegation to cross into South Cyprus with their own cars.

While, the UBP officials claimed that they had obtained the necessary permits, Greek Cypriot police said they had received no such notification.
Speaking to reporters at Ledra Palace, the UBP leader Tahsin Ertugruloglu said that it was the first time he was crossing into South Cyprus since 1972.


Ertugruloglu and his accompanying delegation were then driven to the DISI headquarters by DISI deputy Keti Kleridis.
The meeting between the two parties lasted close to two hours.

Making a joint statement after the meeting, DISI Leader Nikos Anastasiades said they had exchanged views and concerns regarding the latest developments on the Cyprus Problem.

Noting however that there were many difference of opinions between the two parties, Mr. Anastasiades said despite this fact they were in favor of continuing dialog as they believed they could find a common ground.
He also said that the National Unity Party expressed full support to the two leaders in Cyprus during the negotiations process.


Explaining that DISI supported a united Federal Cyprus that will benefit the two peoples in Cyprus within the European Union Mr. Anastasiades said that after evaluating the mistakes made in the past reconciliation could be achieved between the two sides in Cyprus.

For his part National Unity Party leader Tahsin Ertugruloglu said that they had paid a courtesy visit to DISI.

Noting that they were in favor of dialog Mr. Ertugruloglu said that the National Unity Party’s door were open to any party who wanted to meet with them.

He too noted that there were many differences between the two parties but expressed the belief that these could be overcome through dialog.
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Halil the hold up was due to TC police. Your "minister" even apologised for this to the UBP. He said too much workload in the "ministry" did not give them enough time to examine the application for the car to pass through ledra palace.

If you're going to blame GC's for everything make sure I'm not looking.
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Postby Bananiot » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:02 am

I think there are lessons to be learnt from the visit of Ertogruloglu and the statements he made. The hold up is of no interest and DT, true to his pastime hobby, sees the tree and misses the forest.

Ertogruloglu, who could be the next leader of the Turkish Cypriots come next year, reiterated the Denktash line of two independent states forming a loose confederation. In fact Denktash, came out od retirement last week to strongly criticise Talat for "accepting some Greek Cypriot demands".

This highlights the environment Talat has to operate in and before the forum "patriots" start firing at Talat, they should just hear what Ertogruloglu and his likes are saying, instead of spending their energy trying to blame one or the other side for his delay in keeping with his programmed appointment with Anastasiades.
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Postby DT. » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:34 am

Bananiot wrote:I think there are lessons to be learnt from the visit of Ertogruloglu and the statements he made. The hold up is of no interest and DT, true to his pastime hobby, sees the tree and misses the forest.

Ertogruloglu, who could be the next leader of the Turkish Cypriots come next year, reiterated the Denktash line of two independent states forming a loose confederation. In fact Denktash, came out od retirement last week to strongly criticise Talat for "accepting some Greek Cypriot demands".

This highlights the environment Talat has to operate in and before the forum "patriots" start firing at Talat, they should just hear what Ertogruloglu and his likes are saying, instead of spending their energy trying to blame one or the other side for his delay in keeping with his programmed appointment with Anastasiades.


Halil highlighted that the GC's delayed him and I corrected it. Deal with it.

Now onto the forest, One thing is confirmed a man like Ertogruloglu would not survive one day and international pressure to dispose of him would be too great. Talat is on the receiving end of criticism now due to his unstable propositions of presidential councils instead of govt's and guarantees instead of independence. I can only imagine what darker colder isolation the tc's would be under if they had someone like Ertogruloglu in charge.

As you have said before Bananiot, the biggest gains made by the TC side have happened when we had a right-wing nationalist leader (Tpap). What makes you think the GC's won't have the same rewards if the TC's go for someone even worse? At least Tpap was talking about a BBF, this guy is bent on 2 independent states! I'm sure Brussels will loooooove him!
Anastasiades has finally confirmed his identity as a Turkish settler offspring. No Cypriot tc or gc has ever had such strong views for turkish independence in the north.
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Postby Bananiot » Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:27 am

Anastasiades is a real leader who leads and he is never lead by populist opinion. In the Greek world real leaders are stoned by small people and even smaller people accuse leaders such as Anastasiades of being "a Turkish settler offspring".
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Postby halil » Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:19 pm

DP LEADER VOICES OPPOSITION TO GREEK CYPRIOT PROPOSALS
The Democrat Party once again voices its opposition and concern to the ongoing negotiations process in Cyprus.

The leader of the Democrat Party Serdar Denktas has said that Greek Cypriot proposals for single sovereignity and citizenship as well as a single economy were unacceptable.

He said that his party had serious concerns on these issues.

In an interview to the Greek Cypriot Politis newspaper, the DP leader said that his party did not want to be kept out of the ongoing process.

The Democrat Party leader also said that they wanted President Mehmet Ali Talat to inform them about what is being discussed at the talks.

Expressing his party’s concerns about the issues of single sovereignty and citizenship, he said that such proposals were unacceptable for the Democrat Party.

“If a new chapter is to begin in Cyprus, it must be emphasized that sovereignty cannot belong to the Greek Cypriot Side” said Denktas, adding that sovereignty needed to belong to both peoples on the island.

Serdar Denktas also expressed his party’s view that there should be two separate economies during the transition period as and when a solution is found to the Cyprus Problem.
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Postby DT. » Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:51 pm

Bananiot wrote:Anastasiades is a real leader who leads and he is never lead by populist opinion. In the Greek world real leaders are stoned by small people and even smaller people accuse leaders such as Anastasiades of being "a Turkish settler offspring".


This small person does not agree with a solution that includes guarnatees from Turkey. To be Cypriot...Hit your head on the floor and do roley poleys, this isn't gonna pass a referendum.

(Pou na Fakas thn kellen sou hame tjai na kamneis koutroumpelles)

What will the leader and his global citizen do then?
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Postby Bananiot » Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:17 pm

DT in life there is more to black and white.
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