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Postby Get Real! » Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:41 pm

CopperLine wrote:Sorry, you've lost me there Get Real What's your point again ? :?

PanAm 103/Lockerbie shot down ? No, not at all. The trial of the alleged bombers - under Scottish law, by English/Welsh prosecution, of Libyan suspects, conducted on Dutch territory - was the longest in Scottish legal history. The second appeal case is now being heard. Basically there has been a serious miscarriage of justice in imprisoning the alleged bombers - whose connection with the aircraft is extremely tenuous at best.

See http://www.lockerbietruth.com/ and the amazing work of Jim Swire

:shock: Oh my God did the West lie again??? :(

Well, let’s hope they brought the bombed Libyan victims back to life… 8)
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Postby CopperLine » Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:11 pm

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It's probably worth your while at least getting to know the basics of the case before coming to such swift and manifestly daft conclusions.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:15 pm

Legality is something which is supported by punishment, no recourse and the law will not be worth the paper it written on, you GCs can collect as many resolutions as you wish if it serves no purpose then its worthless.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:16 pm

CopperLine wrote:Get Real
It's probably worth your while at least getting to know the basics of the case before coming to such swift and manifestly daft conclusions.

The Lockerbie case is well and truly over and not worth anyone’s time anymore other than the odd brief mention so keep your shirt on because daft is when you think it’s safe to call GR daft even though he's whooped your backside EVERY time in the past…

The Pan Am “downed from the ground” theories were MANY in the media at least at the time…

http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/locherbie3.html

People were linking all sorts of things with the “downing” including…

“The United States bombing of Libya (code-named Operation El Dorado Canyon) comprised the joint United States Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps air-strikes against Libya on April 15, 1986”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_El_Dorado_Canyon

But anyway, DON’T BOTHER coming up with your theories to “counter” anything from above because it’s not worth it and I’m not the least bit interested.
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Postby bill cobbett » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:25 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Legality is something which is supported by punishment, no recourse and the law will not be worth the paper it written on, you GCs can collect as many resolutions as you wish if it serves no purpose then its worthless.



...er...Wrong..... In the Free World "legality" or the law is based on a common and shared set of human values, individual human rights and basic human morals and standards.

Almost everyone here would I'm sure condemn those who see these as "worthless".

As all will know, human history is full of those foul regimes like various fascist states in the 30's and 40's and the Foul Occupation Regime in the north who felt and feel they were powerful, invincible and untouchable and who like VP showed contempt for our usual standards.

Well where are the Nazi's with their 3rd Reich, where is Il Duce, Mussolini with his great Italian Empire, where is the Soviet Empire, that repressed much of eastern Europe for fifty years? - condemned to the dustbin of history - and where will the Northern Occupation Puppet State be in a few years? In the scrapyard with them.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:30 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Legality is something which is supported by punishment, no recourse and the law will not be worth the paper it written on, you GCs can collect as many resolutions as you wish if it serves no purpose then its worthless.



...er...Wrong..... In the Free World "legality" or the law is based on a common and shared set of human values, individual human rights and basic human morals and standards.

Almost everyone here would I'm sure condemn those who see these as "worthless".

As all will know, human history is full of those foul regimes like various fascist states in the 30's and 40's and the Foul Occupation Regime in the north who felt and feel they were powerful, invincible and untouchable and who like VP showed contempt for our usual standards.

Well where are the Nazi's with their 3rd Reich, where is Il Duce, Mussolini with his great Italian Empire, where is the Soviet Empire, that repressed much of eastern Europe for fifty years? - condemned to the dustbin of history - and where will the Northern Occupation Puppet State be in a few years? In the scrapyard with them.


How can you claim legality when you have no way of imposing fines or penalties which deem those acts illegal? You still refuse to grasp the fact that the TRNC is nothing like those regimes you desperately peddle as TCs are free to leave and enter as they wish, they have never been better off and are not repressed as they were under the GC administration in 1963, now that's another story of acts that reek of Mussolini and Nazi regimes of we are the majority and more powerful so you have to accept our dominance and discrimination against TCs. You really need to do some soul searching as it was your own foolish aspirations and acts which brought about division, you reap what you sow.
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Postby bill cobbett » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:19 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Legality is something which is supported by punishment, no recourse and the law will not be worth the paper it written on, you GCs can collect as many resolutions as you wish if it serves no purpose then its worthless.



...er...Wrong..... In the Free World "legality" or the law is based on a common and shared set of human values, individual human rights and basic human morals and standards.

Almost everyone here would I'm sure condemn those who see these as "worthless".

As all will know, human history is full of those foul regimes like various fascist states in the 30's and 40's and the Foul Occupation Regime in the north who felt and feel they were powerful, invincible and untouchable and who like VP showed contempt for our usual standards.

Well where are the Nazi's with their 3rd Reich, where is Il Duce, Mussolini with his great Italian Empire, where is the Soviet Empire, that repressed much of eastern Europe for fifty years? - condemned to the dustbin of history - and where will the Northern Occupation Puppet State be in a few years? In the scrapyard with them.


How can you claim legality when you have no way of imposing fines or penalties which deem those acts illegal? You still refuse to grasp the fact that the TRNC is nothing like those regimes you desperately peddle as TCs are free to leave and enter as they wish, they have never been better off and are not repressed as they were under the GC administration in 1963, now that's another story of acts that reek of Mussolini and Nazi regimes of we are the majority and more powerful so you have to accept our dominance and discrimination against TCs. You really need to do some soul searching as it was your own foolish aspirations and acts which brought about division, you reap what you sow.


My soul is as clean as my conscience, and that is very clean, despite your ridiculous and laughable attempt to tarnish it.

Yours on the other hand VP reeks to high heaven, it smells of a Putrid Foul Pestilence as a result of your clear for all to see thefts, perversions of history and your total lack of any moral code on which to base your dodgy "legalities". Your principles you show to this Forum are the principles of the cess-pit. You deliberately and of your own free have set your deplorable moral values at a level that would put a cess-pit to shame in your defence of the "abobado" of the Occupied North.

It isn't a life-belt you need VP, it's a rope to drag yourself out of that morally bankrupt cess-pit you jumped in to. Luckily for you there are still many, many decent Cys around (of both communities) who will always be able to offer you that rope.... and a bar of soap and a shower
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:04 am

bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Legality is something which is supported by punishment, no recourse and the law will not be worth the paper it written on, you GCs can collect as many resolutions as you wish if it serves no purpose then its worthless.



...er...Wrong..... In the Free World "legality" or the law is based on a common and shared set of human values, individual human rights and basic human morals and standards.

Almost everyone here would I'm sure condemn those who see these as "worthless".

As all will know, human history is full of those foul regimes like various fascist states in the 30's and 40's and the Foul Occupation Regime in the north who felt and feel they were powerful, invincible and untouchable and who like VP showed contempt for our usual standards.

Well where are the Nazi's with their 3rd Reich, where is Il Duce, Mussolini with his great Italian Empire, where is the Soviet Empire, that repressed much of eastern Europe for fifty years? - condemned to the dustbin of history - and where will the Northern Occupation Puppet State be in a few years? In the scrapyard with them.


How can you claim legality when you have no way of imposing fines or penalties which deem those acts illegal? You still refuse to grasp the fact that the TRNC is nothing like those regimes you desperately peddle as TCs are free to leave and enter as they wish, they have never been better off and are not repressed as they were under the GC administration in 1963, now that's another story of acts that reek of Mussolini and Nazi regimes of we are the majority and more powerful so you have to accept our dominance and discrimination against TCs. You really need to do some soul searching as it was your own foolish aspirations and acts which brought about division, you reap what you sow.


My soul is as clean as my conscience, and that is very clean, despite your ridiculous and laughable attempt to tarnish it.

Yours on the other hand VP reeks to high heaven, it smells of a Putrid Foul Pestilence as a result of your clear for all to see thefts, perversions of history and your total lack of any moral code on which to base your dodgy "legalities". Your principles you show to this Forum are the principles of the cess-pit. You deliberately and of your own free have set your deplorable moral values at a level that would put a cess-pit to shame in your defence of the "abobado" of the Occupied North.

It isn't a life-belt you need VP, it's a rope to drag yourself out of that morally bankrupt cess-pit you jumped in to. Luckily for you there are still many, many decent Cys around (of both communities) who will always be able to offer you that rope.... and a bar of soap and a shower


Each to their own and survival of the fitest thats how the world works while mugs like you still think that legality written on pieces of paper are going to save the world if you cant enforce its then its worthless just like the collection of resolutions the GCs have filed away under no one gives a shit, open your eyes and see the reality which stares you in the face, the GCs contributed and still contribute today to the current division, they need to do a lot of soul searching as it was them that pulled the pin causing the explosion which they now complain about.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:05 am

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Postby Get Real! » Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:15 am

Viewpoint wrote:Each to their own and survival of the fitest thats how the world works...

Good point! And that explains why you were squashed by the Greek Cypriots so you should accept your fate and quit getting Turkey to prolong your survival because you are NOT the fittest on Cyprus are you now?
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