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[Get Real!]

There are special clauses pertaining to the occupied territory of Cyprus with regards to the EU which deserve a dedicated thread so let’s leave this matter for another time.

We’ve got a match to watch soon anyway…

[DT.]

There are special clauses pertaining to the occupied territory of Cyprus with regards to the EU which deserve a dedicated thread so let’s leave this matter for another time.

We’ve got a match to watch soon anyway…

now you've really cheered me up

[CBBB]

Why is the Ministry of Foreign Affairs website only in English?

[Oracle]

Free movement of EU citizens is not relevant with this issue.

Because I am an EU citizen and I can move freely in all other EU states this doesn't mean I can take a plane and land it wherever I feel like in some other EU country.

There are certain aviation rules that should be followed and these include the airports that a plane can land. The legal airports of each country are declared by the country itself and not by anybody else.

Did you really think that "free movement" of EU citizens also includes free movement of planes without any rules? Sorry to disappoint you, but just like when you are driving a car in a country you have to follow the laws regarding driving, in the same way (but way more strict) when you fly a plane into the airspace of another country you have to follow the rules of that country. You can't just fly and land wherever you feel like.

A good practical point ....

No its not! The occupied part of Cyprus is not under EU law and is therefore not deemed to be an EU country until the government regains its rightful control over it!

No I agree with you also, sweetie!

Politically and legally you are right; but from a "practical" point of view, Piratis is quite correct as well.

It's like double yellow lines, by the roadside. Physically you can park your car on them, but legally you are not allowed!

Now no bickering, please!

[DT.]

Why is the Ministry of Foreign Affairs website only in English?

cause if you need to read something on it the chances are that you're probably a foreigner.

[Piratis]

Free movement of EU citizens is not relevant with this issue.

Because I am an EU citizen and I can move freely in all other EU states this doesn't mean I can take a plane and land it wherever I feel like in some other EU country.

There are certain aviation rules that should be followed and these include the airports that a plane can land. The legal airports of each country are declared by the country itself and not by anybody else.

Did you really think that "free movement" of EU citizens also includes free movement of planes without any rules? Sorry to disappoint you, but just like when you are driving a car in a country you have to follow the laws regarding driving, in the same way (but way more strict) when you fly a plane into the airspace of another country you have to follow the rules of that country. You can't just fly and land wherever you feel like.

A good practical point ....

No its not! The occupied part of Cyprus is not under EU law and is therefore not deemed to be an EU country until the government regains its rightful control over it!

It is Cyprus territory. EU is irrelevant in this case* Here we are talking about the legal use of the Cyprus airspace and the legal airports where airplanes (regardless of where they come from) are allowed to land and take off. (and even this only after they take permission from the Cypriot authorities, not however they feel like)

* The north part of Cyprus is EU territory. Only the application of EU law is suspended. This doesn't mean it is not EU territory. When Cyprus entered the EU the whole island which is represented by the one and only state on the island, the Republic of Cyprus, entered the EU.

[DT.]

Free movement of EU citizens is not relevant with this issue.

Because I am an EU citizen and I can move freely in all other EU states this doesn't mean I can take a plane and land it wherever I feel like in some other EU country.

There are certain aviation rules that should be followed and these include the airports that a plane can land. The legal airports of each country are declared by the country itself and not by anybody else.

Did you really think that "free movement" of EU citizens also includes free movement of planes without any rules? Sorry to disappoint you, but just like when you are driving a car in a country you have to follow the laws regarding driving, in the same way (but way more strict) when you fly a plane into the airspace of another country you have to follow the rules of that country. You can't just fly and land wherever you feel like.

A good practical point ....

No its not! The occupied part of Cyprus is not under EU law and is therefore not deemed to be an EU country until the government regains its rightful control over it!

No I agree with you also, sweetie!

Politically and legally you are right; but from a "practical" point of view, Piratis is quite correct as well.

It's like double yellow lines, by the roadside. Physically you can park your car on them, but legally you are not allowed!

Now no bickering, please!

I feel a sulk coming on.

[Get Real!]

Why is the Ministry of Foreign Affairs website only in English?

cause if you need to read something on it the chances are that you're probably a foreigner.

[DT.]

Free movement of EU citizens is not relevant with this issue.

Because I am an EU citizen and I can move freely in all other EU states this doesn't mean I can take a plane and land it wherever I feel like in some other EU country.

There are certain aviation rules that should be followed and these include the airports that a plane can land. The legal airports of each country are declared by the country itself and not by anybody else.

Did you really think that "free movement" of EU citizens also includes free movement of planes without any rules? Sorry to disappoint you, but just like when you are driving a car in a country you have to follow the laws regarding driving, in the same way (but way more strict) when you fly a plane into the airspace of another country you have to follow the rules of that country. You can't just fly and land wherever you feel like.

A good practical point ....

No its not! The occupied part of Cyprus is not under EU law and is therefore not deemed to be an EU country until the government regains its rightful control over it!

It is Cyprus territory. EU is irrelevant in this case* Here we are talking about the legal use of the Cyprus airspace and the legal airports where airplanes (regardless of where they come from) are allowed to land and take off. (and even this only after they take permission from the Cypriot authorities, not however they feel like)

* The north part of Cyprus is EU territory. Only the application of EU law is suspended. This doesn't mean it is not EU territory. When Cyprus entered the EU the whole island which is represented by the one and only state on the island, the Republic of Cyprus, entered the EU.

I agree Piratis but the question is regarding ports of entry into the EU and Tymbou is not a port of entry due to suspension of EU law in the north and non-designation of that airport as a legal port of entry.

[Get Real!]

Only the application of EU law is suspended.

Those are the clauses I was referring to... must we dig them out now?