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[Niki]

I think joining the EU is terrible for Cyprus.

The EU seeks to control and tax every aspect of our lives and then squander the money on ridiculous schemes and troughing for the MEPs (no receipt required).

The EU can’t manage to balance its own budget or sign-off the accounts – it is a black hole down which money flows and very soon more of that money will be ours.

Cypriots I know wanted the EU membership to provide a solution to The Cyprob. It hasn’t.

All the EU has given us so far are some flyovers in Limassol and vastly increased cost of living. Remember when diesel was 20c a litre? Now, courtesy of the EU we have the price five times higher and the madness of three types of diesel for heating, for transport and for farming…

I don’t see what advantage is gained – Cypriots have always gone to universities in the UK and being a member won’t change that.

I think Cyprus would have been much better to remain outside, trade with the EU in areas that are beneficial to Cyprus and ignore the hundreds of thousands of ridiculous rules and regulations which are heading our way…

It would be a disaster if Cyprus ended up like the 'nanny state' that the UK has become with it's high taxes, immigration policies and ridiculous employment laws.

But - there are many aspects of being in the EU that are good and the freedom of trade, education are good things. Students did go to the UK before but they are at least subsidised now. They can also study in other EU countries more easily.

Money that isn't now being made from tourism has to be replaced with new international businesses coming into the country. Much more difficult to do if Cyprus wasn't in the EU. Setting up a business in Cyprus is still a laborious slow and expensive task compared to other countries but at least it is easier than it was. There are tighter controls over health and safety which although restrictive really does need to happen here!

I think the blame for not solving the Cyprob is more to do with the people of Cyprus - too many raw emotions still. How could the EU possibly come in and whitewash over the Cypriot's experiences?

Of course there are good and bad aspects to being in the EU.

[cyprusgrump]

It would be a disaster if Cyprus ended up like the 'nanny state' that the UK has become with it's high taxes, immigration policies and ridiculous employment laws.

But the UK is run by the EU now… when Gordon Brown wanted to nationalise the banks he didn’t ask parliament for permission and he certainly didn’t ask the people for permission – he went to the EU and asked them if it was okay.

Where the UK goes Cyprus will follow. Look at the smoking ban already – I have Cypriot friends that can’t smoke in their own restaurants… it is nanny state gone mad.

Trust me, before long our cucumbers and bananas will be deemed too short and souvla banned for infringing the goat’s rights.

But - there are many aspects of being in the EU that are good and the freedom of trade, education are good things. Students did go to the UK before but they are at least subsidised now. They can also study in other EU countries more easily.

But that is our money – not the EU’s money. The EU only gets its cash from taxes and they then believe they have the right to throw it around as they wish.

I don’t want my taxes used to fund some Spanish kid taking a PhD in David Beckam or media studies – I’ve already funded my daughter through University.

Money that isn't now being made from tourism has to be replaced with new international businesses coming into the country. Much more difficult to do if Cyprus wasn't in the EU. Setting up a business in Cyprus is still a laborious slow and expensive task compared to other countries but at least it is easier than it was. There are tighter controls over health and safety which although restrictive really does need to happen here!

How come Switzerland can survive outside of the EU and be one of the richest countries in the world by per capita Gross Domestic Product?

I think the blame for not solving the Cyprob is more to do with the people of Cyprus - too many raw emotions still. How could the EU possibly come in and whitewash over the Cypriot's experiences?

Time and time again people told me that they were for EU membership because the ERU would solve Cyprob and help them get their land back. I honestly believe this is what the majority wanted – not a five-fold increase in fuel prices, upstairs toilets in restaurants or a smoking ban.

[tessintrnc]

I think joining the EU is terrible for Cyprus.

The EU seeks to control and tax every aspect of our lives and then squander the money on ridiculous schemes and troughing for the MEPs (no receipt required).

The EU can’t manage to balance its own budget or sign-off the accounts – it is a black hole down which money flows and very soon more of that money will be ours.

Cypriots I know wanted the EU membership to provide a solution to The Cyprob. It hasn’t.

All the EU has given us so far are some flyovers in Limassol and vastly increased cost of living. Remember when diesel was 20c a litre? Now, courtesy of the EU we have the price five times higher and the madness of three types of diesel for heating, for transport and for farming…

I don’t see what advantage is gained – Cypriots have always gone to universities in the UK and being a member won’t change that.

I think Cyprus would have been much better to remain outside, trade with the EU in areas that are beneficial to Cyprus and ignore the hundreds of thousands of ridiculous rules and regulations which are heading our way…

I agree. Especially with the last bit. How many traditional Tavernas will have to close because they don't have enough toilets? How many village butchers will close because they can't afford stainless steel etc everywhere? How many local cheesemakers will go out of business because they don't have the "right" equipment? Both here and in the South I have eaten in local places, bought from "scruffy" looking butchers and bought cheese from old ladies in the local markets - and I have never suffered from food poisoning!! To me, EU = loss of identity, but maybe this is the price you pay for the "benefits"..............
Tess

[halil]

Are u suggesting us ?
we , the TC's must not join the EU and stay neutral

[cyprusgrump]

I think joining the EU is terrible for Cyprus.

The EU seeks to control and tax every aspect of our lives and then squander the money on ridiculous schemes and troughing for the MEPs (no receipt required).

The EU can’t manage to balance its own budget or sign-off the accounts – it is a black hole down which money flows and very soon more of that money will be ours.

Cypriots I know wanted the EU membership to provide a solution to The Cyprob. It hasn’t.

All the EU has given us so far are some flyovers in Limassol and vastly increased cost of living. Remember when diesel was 20c a litre? Now, courtesy of the EU we have the price five times higher and the madness of three types of diesel for heating, for transport and for farming…

I don’t see what advantage is gained – Cypriots have always gone to universities in the UK and being a member won’t change that.

I think Cyprus would have been much better to remain outside, trade with the EU in areas that are beneficial to Cyprus and ignore the hundreds of thousands of ridiculous rules and regulations which are heading our way…

I agree. Especially with the last bit. How many traditional Tavernas will have to close because they don't have enough toilets? How many village butchers will close because they can't afford stainless steel etc everywhere? How many local cheesemakers will go out of business because they don't have the "right" equipment? Both here and in the South I have eaten in local places, bought from "scruffy" looking butchers and bought cheese from old ladies in the local markets - and I have never suffered from food poisoning!! To me, EU = loss of identity, but maybe this is the price you pay for the "benefits"..............
Tess

Precisely!

And when they have finished with the tavernas, cheese makers, etc. they'll move on to their next target...

[halil]

Also not allowed to cook boumbar .



kelle (Kleftikon lamb head )





without them Cyprus does not test at all !!!!!!

Where are you Bananiot ?

[CBBB]

Also not allowed to cook boumbar .



kelle (Kleftikon lamb head )





without them Cyprus does not test at all !!!!!!

Where are you Bananiot ?

What is boumbar (it looks interesting)?

Sheeps heads shouldn't be a problem, you can still get those in North London from the Cypriot hasapis.

[tessintrnc]

Also not allowed to cook boumbar .



kelle (Kleftikon lamb head )





without them Cyprus does not test at all !!!!!!

Where are you Bananiot ?

What is boumbar (it looks interesting)?

Sheeps heads shouldn't be a problem, you can still get those in North London from the Cypriot hasapis.[/quote]

Thats interesting CBBB, when I was in Corfu 6 years ago, it was during the Village's Saint's day and amongst the celebratory food was a large spit roasting whole sheep, there was many a grumble and moan from the older people that they could no longer cook the sheep whole with it's head!! Oh and boumbar is a dish made from intestines I believe.........

[halil]

CBBB,

Actualy we call it Bumbar .

http://www.cypnet.co.uk/ncyprus/culture ... umbar.html



Bumbar (Cypriot sausages)

Stuffed intestines with rice; serves 4-6

Ingredients
3 thin intestines (with no hole)
700 gr minced beef
1 large onion -grated
160 gr rice -washed and drained
750 ml (3/4 litre) water
2-3 tablespoons salt
3 tablespoons parsley -finely chopped
2 large ripe tomatoes -peeled and chopped
1 tablespoon tomato paste
100 ml cooking oil
Vinegar
Lemon juice

How to clean the instestines
Wash all the three pieces under cold water.
To clean the inside, take one piece and hold one of the ends with one hand, then with the other hand start turning inside out. Fill the intestine with water, so that it runs out like a long sausage. The fatty outside is now in. Do all the three pieces in the same way.
Wash them again with cold water than rub in some flour, so that all the thick mucuous is rubbled out of them. then wash again.
Lastly, clean with lemon juice and vinegar.


For the filling:
Grate one large onion, chop the tomatoes and parsley.
Wash and drain the rice.
Add all into the minced beef, together with tomato paste, 2 tablespoons salt, and 3/4 litre of water.
Mix all the ingredients well.


Preparation:
Turn all the intestine inside out in the same way. Then with a special funnel which has a large mouth (made for this purpose) fill the intestine with the prepared filling and tie the ends with a thick string.
Put all the stuffed intestines into a large cooking pot. Fill with cold water just to cover all. Add 2 teaspoons of salt. Bring to boil and simmer 30-45 minutes.
In the middle of the cooking time, make holes on each intestine with a skewer, so that all the air escapes. When cooked, take them out of the water and drain.
Keep 3/4 litre of the hot cooking water separately. The rest can be used in making soups or in cooking. Then fry the bumbars (intestines) until brown all over, without damaging them. After frying, take them out and serve warm.

[CBBB]

Also not allowed to cook boumbar .



kelle (Kleftikon lamb head )





without them Cyprus does not test at all !!!!!!

Where are you Bananiot ?

What is boumbar (it looks interesting)?

Sheeps heads shouldn't be a problem, you can still get those in North London from the Cypriot hasapis.[/quote]

Thats interesting CBBB, when I was in Corfu 6 years ago, it was during the Village's Saint's day and amongst the celebratory food was a large spit roasting whole sheep, there was many a grumble and moan from the older people that they could no longer cook the sheep whole with it's head!! Oh and boumbar is a dish made from intestines I believe.........

OK, found a recipe and it is basically a sausage, but they call it Mumbar.

The last time I got a sheep's head in the UK was 3 years ago, but I am failry sure they are still available.