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Re: Black Power Rising in the USA! .....

Postby Paphitis » Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:11 am

DT. wrote:
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Niki wrote:
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Oracle wrote:Barack Obama, Condoleeza Rice, :roll: Colin Powell ...

The rise of the African in American Politics. 8)

More of the same or a hope for the Future?


I think this is fantastic! It gives real hope for a more open minded future.

The UK (and Cyprus) should learn from this.


How so Niki? Are Black people more open minded?

Anyway, Britain is too conservative to go anywhere near having a Black PM, despite the large population of Africans and West Indians. They even object to being governed by the Welsh (Kinnock) or the Scots and Gordon Brown is being blamed by many for having Scottish interests above English interests (and not just simply for being a bad PM).

(Cyprus would struggle down this road, only because there are so few African people here .... ).


I meant that many Americans (and Brits and Cypriots) would benefit from having members from multi-cultural backgrounds in it's government. I would hope that this would make the general population more open minded to people from different backgrounds including blacks.

The British government is much too narrow minded but then I would have said that about many Americans and their government once.


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We do have multi-cultural backgrounds in our Government. The Speaker of The House of Assembly is Armenian. And the speaker of the House is the second most powerful politician, as he is also the acting President of the Republic of Cyprus whenever the President is abroad.


and don't forget the countless Paphites that have made it to Nicosia against all odds to be part of the govt! :lol:


Our longest serving President was a Paphiti! 8)

Other Cypriots know a good thing when they see it. 8)
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Re: Black Power Rising in the USA! .....

Postby Oracle » Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:23 am

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Oracle wrote:Barack Obama, Condoleeza Rice, :roll: Colin Powell ...

The rise of the African in American Politics. 8)

More of the same or a hope for the Future?


I think this is fantastic! It gives real hope for a more open minded future.

The UK (and Cyprus) should learn from this.


How so Niki? Are Black people more open minded?

Anyway, Britain is too conservative to go anywhere near having a Black PM, despite the large population of Africans and West Indians. They even object to being governed by the Welsh (Kinnock) or the Scots and Gordon Brown is being blamed by many for having Scottish interests above English interests (and not just simply for being a bad PM).

(Cyprus would struggle down this road, only because there are so few African people here .... ).


The objection to Kinnock was nothing to do with him being Welsh, it had more to do with what the Labour Party had stood for and continued to stand for at that time. Any trade union member who ran the gauntlet of Labours extreme left combined with the Socialist Workers Party to attend union meetings/dispute meetings knew exactly who these people represented and it certainly was not the workers! Kinnock, decent enough as he was could not control those on the extreme left of his party. The best Prime Minister that Britain never had was unfortunately the late John Smith, a Scotsman.
Regarding the Scotsman Gordon Brown, I dont go along with blaming him for the current economic situation but his association with Blair and the perhaps/perhaps not imagined Scottish Westminster cabal that got the UK into three wars in less than ten years is to be regretted. At least the late Robin Cook another Scot, had the decency to resign his cabinet position prior to the stupidity of the Iraq invasion, just a shame that he did not speak up before we became embroiled in the Balkans and Afghanistan. Britain and hopefully one day just England has no place in these war situations no more than it has in any UN peace keeping operation.

As for black people in UK politics, well perhaps these two gentlemen who never made it to national politics but who were influential in their predominately white local communities need to be checked out on google,
Dr. Allan Glaisyer Minns, Mayor of Thetford Norfolk 1904.
John Archer, Mayor of Battersea London 1913.
Both were way ahead of their American contemporaries who were more likely to have been lynched than elected!

Todays non white UK politicians have nothing to thank the Chairman of the House Commitee Keith Vaz MP for in their struggle to be taken seriously by the UK electorate. Anyone who knew or had dealings with Baroness Flather the first Asian British woman Mayor (Windsor and Maidenhead) and the mother of Keith Vaz MP will not have been surprised by his behaviour.

My own dealings with UK multi racial politics came to an abrupt end in the 1980's when I refused to contest a seat previously held by a British Moslem who had resigned after being accused of racism. Honest decent and hard working on behalf of all he represented this mans life was made hell not by skin head NF yobs or by the white English but by his Hindu constituents who took every opportunity to accuse him of racism.

As for colour, ethnicity, gender, orientation and religion or none, I and many other ethnic English could not give a damn. The question is quite simply, 'if elected can they do the job in our best interests'.


Hello Rotate

I've just seen your post and I must say it makes for very interesting reading. Thanks for taking the time to write it. :D

I guess people freely refer to ethnicities like "Welsh" and "Scot" in the UK without fear of being labelled "racist" so prominent characters are just as likely to be mentioned this way as by their names or what they stand for.

Racial tensions wax and wane in the UK depending on the economic climate and which party is in power at the time so I hope we don't see the extremes initiated by the BNP types in the '80s again.

I completely agree with you about John Smith and I wish Tony Benn had been more pro-active. Hilary Benn is a chip off the old block and a complete contrast to the hyped bad-news-for-Britain Milliband.

Anyway, great news and a big relief about Obama :D
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Postby karma » Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:40 am

His dreams came true, what about the rest world ?? :roll:




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Postby Oracle » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:35 pm

So true Karma!

His speech applies as much for the refugee GCs this day, as it did for the negro in his day.

Exiled in their own country and victims of racial segregation.

Here is the chance for Obama to push King's sentiment further and help fight the oppression enforced on the Cypriot nation by the Turks ....
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Postby Nikitas » Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:08 pm

Don't hold your breath!
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Postby AQ » Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:47 pm

Oracle wrote:So true Karma!

His speech applies as much for the refugee GCs this day, as it did for the negro in his day.

Exiled in their own country and victims of racial segregation.

Here is the chance for Obama to push King's sentiment further and help fight the oppression enforced on the Cypriot nation by the Turks ....


Obama doesn't know where Cyprus is.

Believe it or not it ain't the centre of the Universe.

I wish him well but I think some nutter will do for him sooner rather than later.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:17 pm

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Oracle wrote:So true Karma!

His speech applies as much for the refugee GCs this day, as it did for the negro in his day.

Exiled in their own country and victims of racial segregation.

Here is the chance for Obama to push King's sentiment further and help fight the oppression enforced on the Cypriot nation by the Turks ....


Obama doesn't know where Cyprus is.


He not only knows where Cyprus is, he also knows it is occupied by Turkey!

Obama wrote:"A negotiated political settlement on Cyprus would end the Turkish occupation of northern Cyprus and repair the island's tragic division while paving the way to prosperity and peace throughout the entire region."
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Postby yialousa1971 » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:24 pm

Bagels and KFC for everyone instead of Bagels and apple pie. :roll:
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Postby greek.god » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:32 pm

This election was not about the color of one's skin. It was about CHANGE!! 8 years of the Devil and Darth Vader at the helm was too much for the American people....plain and simple.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:42 pm

greek.god wrote:This election was not about the color of one's skin. It was about CHANGE!! 8 years of the Devil and Darth Vader at the helm was too much for the American people....plain and simple.


The topic is less about the election, and more about changing attitudes in the US, allowing African descendants access to positions of Power.
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