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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:13 pm

miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Take good note:

The Ottoman remnants are trying to RE-INVENT themselves on Cyprus at the indigenous people’s expense and that’s why they MUST be stopped at all costs.

They have made it VERY CLEAR verbally and through all their actions that they are NOT Cypriot but Ottomans and I for one need no more convincing.

Let those Turkish Cypriots who swear allegiance to Cyprus come forth and join the remaining Cypriots in the unoccupied territory and let this union of Cypriots go forth and crash the emerging Ottoman remnants into oblivion once and for all.

I do not think for one second that Bir , Kikapu , Ahmed , Verukel (right spelling?) or indeed thousands upon thousands of T/Cs see themselves as anything but T/Cs , Most certainly NOT remnants .
Such nonconstructive characterizations for people whose love of Cyprus as their own nation has for years been denied to , by being told that they are only mere remnants not a part of our nation but remnants of a past dynasty. Is it surprising that many see Turkey as their motherland ??
Shout out to them as I do , that this land of Cyprus is theirs just as much as it is ours , but it is not Turkish land anymore than it is Greek land.


You are fighting a losing battle Miltiades, GCs are unable to understand that we are their equals and indigenous to Cyprus with rights not only as individuals but also has a community. There are far more Oracles than Miltiades you just havent realized it yet.
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Postby miltiades » Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:18 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Take good note:

The Ottoman remnants are trying to RE-INVENT themselves on Cyprus at the indigenous people’s expense and that’s why they MUST be stopped at all costs.

They have made it VERY CLEAR verbally and through all their actions that they are NOT Cypriot but Ottomans and I for one need no more convincing.

Let those Turkish Cypriots who swear allegiance to Cyprus come forth and join the remaining Cypriots in the unoccupied territory and let this union of Cypriots go forth and crash the emerging Ottoman remnants into oblivion once and for all.

I do not think for one second that Bir , Kikapu , Ahmed , Verukel (right spelling?) or indeed thousands upon thousands of T/Cs see themselves as anything but T/Cs , Most certainly NOT remnants .
Such nonconstructive characterizations for people whose love of Cyprus as their own nation has for years been denied to , by being told that they are only mere remnants not a part of our nation but remnants of a past dynasty. Is it surprising that many see Turkey as their motherland ??
Shout out to them as I do , that this land of Cyprus is theirs just as much as it is ours , but it is not Turkish land anymore than it is Greek land.


You are fighting a losing battle Miltiades, GCs are unable to understand that we are their equals and indigenous to Cyprus with rights not only as individuals but also has a community. There are far more Oracles than Miltiades you just havent realized it yet.

Maybe so VP , on this forum , but not in the real world . The Oracles of this world are being challenged by the thinkers the peacemakers the forward elements , are the Oracles amongst you , our people in the occupied parts , also challenged ?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:26 pm

miltiades wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Take good note:

The Ottoman remnants are trying to RE-INVENT themselves on Cyprus at the indigenous people’s expense and that’s why they MUST be stopped at all costs.

They have made it VERY CLEAR verbally and through all their actions that they are NOT Cypriot but Ottomans and I for one need no more convincing.

Let those Turkish Cypriots who swear allegiance to Cyprus come forth and join the remaining Cypriots in the unoccupied territory and let this union of Cypriots go forth and crash the emerging Ottoman remnants into oblivion once and for all.

I do not think for one second that Bir , Kikapu , Ahmed , Verukel (right spelling?) or indeed thousands upon thousands of T/Cs see themselves as anything but T/Cs , Most certainly NOT remnants .
Such nonconstructive characterizations for people whose love of Cyprus as their own nation has for years been denied to , by being told that they are only mere remnants not a part of our nation but remnants of a past dynasty. Is it surprising that many see Turkey as their motherland ??
Shout out to them as I do , that this land of Cyprus is theirs just as much as it is ours , but it is not Turkish land anymore than it is Greek land.


You are fighting a losing battle Miltiades, GCs are unable to understand that we are their equals and indigenous to Cyprus with rights not only as individuals but also has a community. There are far more Oracles than Miltiades you just havent realized it yet.

Maybe so VP , on this forum , but not in the real world . The Oracles of this world are being challenged by the thinkers the peacemakers the forward elements , are the Oracles amongst you , our people in the occupied parts , also challenged ?


Getting rid of the Turkish army will not solve all our problems it will only leave us exposed to exploitation and danger from the Oracles who fortunately for us are kept at arm length. GR still calls us remnants of the Ottomans and therefore not Cypriots, how can we trust and work with people who claim they are well educated and European, please don't take us down that route because it is a very dangerous game that you play and would put your "compatriots" lives at risk.
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Postby miltiades » Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:40 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Take good note:

The Ottoman remnants are trying to RE-INVENT themselves on Cyprus at the indigenous people’s expense and that’s why they MUST be stopped at all costs.

They have made it VERY CLEAR verbally and through all their actions that they are NOT Cypriot but Ottomans and I for one need no more convincing.

Let those Turkish Cypriots who swear allegiance to Cyprus come forth and join the remaining Cypriots in the unoccupied territory and let this union of Cypriots go forth and crash the emerging Ottoman remnants into oblivion once and for all.

I do not think for one second that Bir , Kikapu , Ahmed , Verukel (right spelling?) or indeed thousands upon thousands of T/Cs see themselves as anything but T/Cs , Most certainly NOT remnants .
Such nonconstructive characterizations for people whose love of Cyprus as their own nation has for years been denied to , by being told that they are only mere remnants not a part of our nation but remnants of a past dynasty. Is it surprising that many see Turkey as their motherland ??
Shout out to them as I do , that this land of Cyprus is theirs just as much as it is ours , but it is not Turkish land anymore than it is Greek land.


You are fighting a losing battle Miltiades, GCs are unable to understand that we are their equals and indigenous to Cyprus with rights not only as individuals but also has a community. There are far more Oracles than Miltiades you just havent realized it yet.

Maybe so VP , on this forum , but not in the real world . The Oracles of this world are being challenged by the thinkers the peacemakers the forward elements , are the Oracles amongst you , our people in the occupied parts , also challenged ?


Getting rid of the Turkish army will not solve all our problems it will only leave us exposed to exploitation and danger from the Oracles who fortunately for us are kept at arm length. GR still calls us remnants of the Ottomans and therefore not Cypriots, how can we trust and work with people who claim they are well educated and European, please don't take us down that route because it is a very dangerous game that you play and would put your "compatriots" lives at risk.

Remnants of the Ottoman Empire you most certainly ARE NOT .
By this philosophy the entire worlds' people are remnants of one sort or another . My own grandchildren could be said to be partly remnants of the British Rule in Cyprus something they are certainly not , they are Cypriots and will fly the flag of Cyprus .
My indirect family T/C members of my extended family come together at various family events and feel just as I do that they are Cypriots first and foremost.
Our island is ours , the Cypriots , together we can liberate our selves from the restraining chains and live to see our island united as one with one nationality , one nation where the only minority will be the non Cypriots . No Cypriot is a minority in his own country any more than I is a minority in the UK because I have embraced this nation as my own and do not in the least feel a part of a minority.
Love your country , want the best for your country and you will never feel left out .
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:49 pm

Miltiades its not me you have to convince but the Oracles GR Paratis Kifeas of the south who do not consider me an equal but as invaders unless I submit to their will and leadership without safeguards to secure my effective input towards my own future which needs to safeguards in place. Unless these are in place no TC will commit to a united Cyprus as the "majority" which happens to be the GCs and who you are will exploit this advantage to stamp all over us with the blessing of the EU.
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