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[Sotos]

Turkey itself is temporary. When Kurdistan will gain its freedom will they call what will remain Turkey again? Maybe they should call it Chicken this time.

[DT.]

just when you thought the world could not get anymore ironic.

After Turkey has chosen to ignore countless resolutions instructing the country to remove its occupation troops from Cyprus it has now been invited into that same club so that it can help pass some more of these resolutions it doesn't recognise.

[Damsi]

Substantive UNSC decisions need nine affirmative votes, including the concurring votes of the five permanent members. For dispute under certain chapters a member who is party to a dispute must abstain from voting. An abstention is not regarded as a veto, according to UN regulations.

It's also funny that when a country is being considered for membership of the UNSC its "contribution to the maintenance of international peace and security" is one of the primary things they look at.

I thought that was a bit of a joke until someone rightly pointed out the past records of the five permanent members, Russia, China, France, Britain and the good old US, which as everyone knows is a huge contributor to international peace and security

[Bananiot]

I suggest you read Papanoutsos's "to dikaio tis pigmis". It might help you to grow up.

[Kifeas]

I suggest you read Papanoutsos's "to dikaio tis pigmis". It might help you to grow up.

And why should someone read this book, Bananiot? For what purpose?

[Bananiot]

Actually it is a book that contains a number of excellent essays and "to dikaio tis pigmis" is just one of them but nevertheless it lends the title to the book. I think it will help many people understand why Turkey is a non permanent member of the Security Council, which may not be such a bad thing but it has got our whole leadership much worried.

[Get Real!]

Actually it is a book that contains a number of excellent essays and "to dikaio tis pigmis" is just one of them but nevertheless it lends the title to the book. I think it will help many people understand why Turkey is a non permanent member of the Security Council, which may not be such a bad thing but it has got our whole leadership much worried.

You don't need to read a book to figure that out Bananiot... what do the US, France, China, UK, and the USSR, all have in common? They "beat" the axis powers.

[Kifeas]

Actually it is a book that contains a number of excellent essays and "to dikaio tis pigmis" is just one of them but nevertheless it lends the title to the book. I think it will help many people understand why Turkey is a non permanent member of the Security Council, which may not be such a bad thing but it has got our whole leadership much worried.

Bananiot, there is no such thing as "to dikaio tis pigmis" (might is right.) There are legitimate and illegitimate interests that are wanted or needed to be served, and that "o skopos agiazei ta mesa" ("the end justifies the means!") No need to use sacred words or concepts such as "to dikaio" (justice,) to euphemistically describe the above truth!

Secondly, we all know how Turkey became a non-permanent member of the UN SC. Nothing special, since Greece was also a member, 2 years ago! The fact that Turkey participated in many UN missions, and that fact that Greece and the GC side did not drastically campaign against it (in fact Greece had an agreement with Turkey on the issue, to mutually do not oppose each other's candidacy) and the fact that Island, the other candidate of the 3 countries, had lost its leverage due to the recent international economic crisis, paved the way for Turkey to secure a place in it. Nothing remarkably special, nor does it give any significant power to Turkey over Cyprus. In fact, it will make things worse for her, for we all know that it refuses to recognize the RoC, but will now have to sign resolutions that imply its existence, if not recognition, and also will now be compelled to remain present when RoC representatives address the council or the General assembly, instead of walking away every time this was happening.

[pantheman]

Kifeas thank you, so is it now fair to say that Turkey is well and truely fucked and that she has shot herself in the head???

Well I like to think so

Cry Bananiot cry, mama is now hurting

[Viewpoint]

You GCs are so shit scared of Turkey and so you should be, its very unlikely you will sing her praises but your doom and gloom novels are starting to wear thin as you are obviously biased therefore rendering your postings irrelevant due to your one sided viewpoint.