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Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:14 am

BirKibrisli wrote:I don't have to ask Tim what he is doing on this site...Tim is a True Cypriot,one without a single racist bone...


Thanks for your endorsement, although I think the "true Cypriot" is a bit over the top. I am foreigner who has lived here for a couple of years.

Satire can be a dangerous tool with which to attack racism. I imagine you know the Scottish-born Australian songwriter and singer Eric Bogle. He wrote a song some time ago entitled "I hate wogs":

http://www.lyrics007.com/Bogle%20Eric%2 ... yrics.html

The first time I ever heard this song, it had me in stitches because it totally destroys the racist world view from within. Eric Bogle clearly has left-wing views, and he is on record as stating that this is an anti-racist song. However, certain Australian racists apparently failed to appreciate the satire and for a while adopted this song as a kind of anthem, while on the other hand certain anti-racist groups, also unable to fathom the subtleties of satire, attacked Bogle for being a racist!

Clearly one who tries to point out irony of somebody from China aligning themselves with an ideology which, among other things, defines the "other" in terms of having slant eyes and coming from Asia ends up facing the same kind of attacks. Somehow the concept of international solidarity between racists and extreme nationalists strikes me as being a contradiction in terms. I once asked a member of the fascist MHP in Turkey what he thought about German skinheads attacking Turks living in their country. He said that they were right to do this! Strange answer, but the only logically consistent one.

PS - I found the above link to the lyrics of Eric Bogle's song by going to Google, entering "Eric Bogle" and "wogs" and found it as a first hit. One can easily use Google to track down any information one wishes to find. It is easy to quote from sites you have never visited before, and they certainly do not have to be in your favourites list.
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Postby roseandchan » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:30 am

lots of this shit around. my son found one called "white power" i'm not sure which group made it. pretty said though.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:08 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:I don't have to ask Tim what he is doing on this site...Tim is a True Cypriot,one without a single racist bone...


Thanks for your endorsement, although I think the "true Cypriot" is a bit over the top. I am foreigner who has lived here for a couple of years.

Satire can be a dangerous tool with which to attack racism. I imagine you know the Scottish-born Australian songwriter and singer Eric Bogle. He wrote a song some time ago entitled "I hate wogs":

http://www.lyrics007.com/Bogle%20Eric%2 ... yrics.html

The first time I ever heard this song, it had me in stitches because it totally destroys the racist world view from within. Eric Bogle clearly has left-wing views, and he is on record as stating that this is an anti-racist song. However, certain Australian racists apparently failed to appreciate the satire and for a while adopted this song as a kind of anthem, while on the other hand certain anti-racist groups, also unable to fathom the subtleties of satire, attacked Bogle for being a racist!

Clearly one who tries to point out irony of somebody from China aligning themselves with an ideology which, among other things, defines the "other" in terms of having slant eyes and coming from Asia ends up facing the same kind of attacks. Somehow the concept of international solidarity between racists and extreme nationalists strikes me as being a contradiction in terms. I once asked a member of the fascist MHP in Turkey what he thought about German skinheads attacking Turks living in their country. He said that they were right to do this! Strange answer, but the only logically consistent one.

PS - I found the above link to the lyrics of Eric Bogle's song by going to Google, entering "Eric Bogle" and "wogs" and found it as a first hit. One can easily use Google to track down any information one wishes to find. It is easy to quote from sites you have never visited before, and they certainly do not have to be in your favourites list.


You are welcome,Tim...As far as I as concerned you are a Truer Cypriot than most on this Forum...I have my own definition of what is a True Cypriot...Above all you have to believe that Cypriots are one people,one nation divided by two artificial factors...And you have to believe that Cyprus should be united as one democratic,law obiding country,without any consideration whatsoever of ethnicity or religious affiliation...And you have to love Cyprus...If I am not mistaken you qualify as a True Cypriot...Whether you like it or not... :wink: :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:12 pm

Whiffs of Scent of Sycophant in the air again :roll:

BirKibrisli .... do you really think the highest compliment you can pay anyone is to call them a "True Cypriot".

Rather bigoted don't you think?
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:13 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:I don't have to ask Tim what he is doing on this site...Tim is a True Cypriot,one without a single racist bone...


Thanks for your endorsement, although I think the "true Cypriot" is a bit over the top. I am foreigner who has lived here for a couple of years.

Satire can be a dangerous tool with which to attack racism. I imagine you know the Scottish-born Australian songwriter and singer Eric Bogle. He wrote a song some time ago entitled "I hate wogs":

http://www.lyrics007.com/Bogle%20Eric%2 ... yrics.html

The first time I ever heard this song, it had me in stitches because it totally destroys the racist world view from within. Eric Bogle clearly has left-wing views, and he is on record as stating that this is an anti-racist song. However, certain Australian racists apparently failed to appreciate the satire and for a while adopted this song as a kind of anthem, while on the other hand certain anti-racist groups, also unable to fathom the subtleties of satire, attacked Bogle for being a racist!

Clearly one who tries to point out irony of somebody from China aligning themselves with an ideology which, among other things, defines the "other" in terms of having slant eyes and coming from Asia ends up facing the same kind of attacks. Somehow the concept of international solidarity between racists and extreme nationalists strikes me as being a contradiction in terms. I once asked a member of the fascist MHP in Turkey what he thought about German skinheads attacking Turks living in their country. He said that they were right to do this! Strange answer, but the only logically consistent one.

PS - I found the above link to the lyrics of Eric Bogle's song by going to Google, entering "Eric Bogle" and "wogs" and found it as a first hit. One can easily use Google to track down any information one wishes to find. It is easy to quote from sites you have never visited before, and they certainly do not have to be in your favourites list.


You are welcome,Tim...As far as I as concerned you are a Truer Cypriot than most on this Forum...I have my own definition of what is a True Cypriot...Above all you have to believe that Cypriots are one people,one nation divided by two artificial factors...And you have to believe that Cyprus should be united as one democratic,law obiding country,without any consideration whatsoever of ethnicity or religious affiliation...And you have to love Cyprus...If I am not mistaken you qualify as a True Cypriot...Whether you like it or not... :wink: :lol:



Can we also have a precious 'Honorary' true Cypriot BK? :lol: :lol:
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Postby Sabre » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:18 pm

It appears that in order to be a "True Cypriot", you must be a defeatist and sell out the country's fundamental right of having a properly trained Defence Force. :roll: You must also accept any solution plan tabled which will effectively place all Cypriots under Turkey's influence and control.

I do not want to be a "True Cypriot". I would rather be a "True Eskimo".
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:19 pm

Oracle wrote:Whiffs of Scent of Sycophant in the air again :roll:

BirKibrisli .... do you really think the highest compliment you can pay anyone is to call them a "True Cypriot".

Rather bigoted don't you think?

It’s just as well we didn’t send Bir to welcome Desmond Tutu to Cyprus the other day or he’d firmly shake his hand and tell the ex-Bishop (?) what a great Cypriot he is… :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:23 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:Whiffs of Scent of Sycophant in the air again :roll:

BirKibrisli .... do you really think the highest compliment you can pay anyone is to call them a "True Cypriot".

Rather bigoted don't you think?

It’s just as well we didn’t send Bir to welcome Desmond Tutu to Cyprus the other day or he’d firmly shake his hand and tell the ex-Bishop (?) what a great Cypriot he is… :lol:


Yes the whole world is made up of "Cypriots" and "Non-Cypriots" :roll:

Such parochialisms are surely indicative of a real Cypriot :lol:
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Postby CBBB » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:38 pm

If you believe that Cyprus is the centre of the Universe, then you are a real Cypriot!
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Postby BirKibrisli » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:42 pm

Oracle wrote:Whiffs of Scent of Sycophant in the air again :roll:

BirKibrisli .... do you really think the highest compliment you can pay anyone is to call them a "True Cypriot".

Rather bigoted don't you think?


Yes,in this Forum,and in the right context,that is the highest complement I can give someone...But have no fear,Oracle,you are in no danger of being called a True Cypriot... :wink: :)
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