BirKibrisli wrote:Huang Loon wrote:Tim Drayton wrote:Piratis wrote:Tim Drayton wrote:Huang Loon, before jumping to conclusion that you have a natural alliance with Hellenic nationalists against the dreaded Hun, you should perhaps analyse the discourse of Hellenic anti-Turkish racism. Here are a couple of telling examples:
These are the sort of slant-eyed, sub-human, savages that I've yelled about
to everybody on Usenet, yet all I get for my foresight and empathy is abuse,
"racist", they like to say to me.
http://www.mombu.com/politics/united-ki ... 17990.html
WHY THE TURKS ARE MONGOLOID ASIAN MONKEY BARBARIANS
http://groups.google.com/
group/soc.culture.usa/browse_thread/thread/81f5bf20d7972f83
You see, according to this discourse, two of the reasons that Turks are considered to be sub-human barbarians is that
1 - They originate from Asia
2 - They have slant eyes.
Now, is this really an ideology that you feel happy with?
Tim, why don't those "Greek nationalists" write the same about the Chinese or the Japanese or other Asians? If the reason of their writings is race, then surely they should write the same things for everybody belonging in the Asian race, right?
I am not saying that there are no Greek racists. Racists exist everywhere. But the general hate against the Turks is not due to their race, but due to their hostile actions against us, which started several centuries ago and they have never stopped since then.
We would be more than willing to leave the past behind if the Turks finally stop trying to gain on our loss. But as long as the Turks continue having claims on even more of our lands and keep invading and occupying us, then the ones you should blame are the Turks, not the Greeks who naturally and 100% justifiably hate the Turks for their barbaric actions against us.
Fair point. There exists a rabid, lunatic, anti-Turkish fringe in the Hellenic world that can easily be rediculed with a little objective reality, such as the simple fact that the modern day inhabitants of the Republic of Turkey (with a few exceptions) are not slant-eyed. Of course, this does not invalidate all the anti-Turkish sentiment that exists in the Hellenic world, part of which is based on sound historical reasons.
However, my premise is that our friend Huang Loon, who is obviously consumed with some kind of irrational hatred against a people he terms the "Huns", has stumbled on some posts here people who belong to the lunatic fringe I have mentioned above, and assumed them to be his fellow travellers.
It would obviously be a little mistaken for our friend to align himself unconditionally with those whose discourse is premised on the thesis that "having slant eyes" and "coming from Asia" are categories that assign people to the status of sub-human untermenschen. Just trying to give our friend a little warning, that's all. Apart from that, I agree that there are more substantive isues at stake, so thank you for reminding me of the bigger picture.
Nihao Tim,
I see my posts have consumed you, but in reality it is you that frequents these racists sites.
And to prove a point hands up with has ever heard of these sites. Now be honest everyone.
Me first. never heard or have been on the mentioned sites
You mind explaining to the forum members what the hell you doing on these sites?
All ears buddy
Wenhou
Huang
Perhaps,dear Huang,you can begin by explaining to us what you are doing on a site like this????? To what do we owe the pleasure of your company????
Nihao BirKibrisli
First of all you should be asking what is Tim doing and quoting racists sites. Don't you think this more appropriate?
And since you asked nicely, I stumbled accross this forum during the Olympics.
Wenhou
huang
