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Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:27 pm

AWE wrote:Ni Hao Huang Loon,

Ni shi nan fang ren ma. Wo xiang ni de pin yin bu shi te bie hao. Ni xie "gambei" wo xiang shi gan bei he "sheshe" xie xie shi zhen de ba. wo de qi zi she zhong gou ren at shou zhong guo ren xi huan meng gu ren he tu er ren.

Dui bu qi wo shou han yu bu xie. zai jian he wan an.


welcome awe, and sabre too...

translation please.

would you be kind enough to read my manifesto and add your comments ...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=16772

also (which are related)...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15874

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19022
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Postby Huang Loon » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:27 pm

Nihao Awe

wo xi wang ni he ni n de taitai yi qie dou hao , ye xi wang suo you you xingque tan hua de ren wan an
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Postby Huang Loon » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:30 pm

halil wrote:LLLLLLLLLLoooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnn

give my regards to UYGHUR PEOPLE.

They are not alone .

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Uyghur protest in Munich 2008 against China policy .


The name Xinjiang, which means "new territory" in Chinese, is considered offensive by many advocates of Uyghur independence who prefer to use historical or ethnic names such as Uyghurstan or East Turkestan (with Turkestan sometimes spelled as Turkistan).

The Uyghur independence activists staged several uprisings against Sheng-Kuomintang rule. Twice, in 1933 and 1944, Uyghur were successful in setting up two independent Uyghur states: East Turkestan Republic and Republic of Uyghurstan or Islamic Eastern Turkestan Republic. The more secular, socialist East Turkestan Republic was multiethnic, with Kazakh, Uzbek, Han Chinese, Kyrgyz, Russian as well as Uyghur founders, and was backed by Joseph Stalin. In 1949, the East Turkestan agreed to form a confederate relation with Mao's People's Republic of China, banking on the firm grip on Xinjiang by its own pro-Soviet and ethnic nationalist local regime. However, a plane crash killed the main body of East Turkestan Republic's supreme leadership, as this party was on its way to Beijing to negotiate the terms of confederation. The crash is sometimes alleged as a plot by Mao, because soon following the crash, General Wang Zhen quickly marched on Xinjiang through the deserts, suppressing pro-Kuomintang and anti-Chinese ethnic uprisings. The remaining East Turkestan Republic leadership under General Saipidin Eziz quickly surrendered to Mao's terms and agreed to turn Xinjiang into the Uyghur Autonomous Region, with the Eastern Turkestan Republican Army pressed into the PLA and Saipidin Eziz serving as the region's first CCP governor. Many East Turkestan Republic loyalists, resenting Saipidin's betrayal of the Uyghur's nationalist dream, made their exiles to Turkey and the West. Yet many other loyalists remained behind and staged anti-CCP activities aiming at re-establishing an independent nation in Xinjiang. Soon after that, all mentioning of the name East Turkestan have been censored and the display of the republic's blue star-crescent flag became illegal.



Nihao Halil,

Thanking you in advance for proving my point.


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Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:37 pm

Huang Loon wrote:Peace and huns shouldn't be used in the same context. my 2 cents on this


Thanks for that. I think by now even the slowest members of this forum (and you allege that I am one of them, so you can hardly deny me the right to speak on their behalf!) have gathered that you are some twisted individual consumed with a pathological hatred of a people you term the "Huns", a term that as far as I know is used to refer to the inhabitants of a political entity that existed in Medieval Central Asia, and a term that no people on earth today use to describe themselves. In other words, your "other" is a pure figment of your imagination. How sad is that?

That point having been established, have you anything new to say?
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Postby halil » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:43 pm

The Chinese also referred to the Uyghurs as Hoy-Hu, Üan-Ga and Chiu Hsing (English: "Nine Clans"). Another suggested etymology is a composite of "uigy" quick + "er/ir/ur" = man for "Quick People", "Uygar" as "civilised", and derivations such as "unified, united", though none of these are justified on historical or linguistic grounds.

The earliest use of the term "Uyghur" (Weihu) was during the Northern Wei Dynasty (386-534 CE), in China. At that time, the Uyghur were part of the Gaoche (English: "High Wheels"), a group of Turkic tribes, which Chinese later called Tele people, from the Turkic word, "tele"the "Nine-Family Tele" association, i.e., Tokuz-Oguzes) for "wheelwagon". This group included tribes such as Syr-Tardush (Chinese: Xueyantuo), Basmyl (Chinese: Baximi), Oguz (Chinese: Wuhu), Khazar (Chinese: Hesan), Alans (Chinese: A-lans), Kyrgyz (Chinese: Hegu), Tuva (Chinese: Duva) and Yakut (Chinese: Guligan) from the Lake Baikal Region. The forebears of the Tele belonged to those of Hun (Chinese: Xiongnu) descendants. According to Chinese Turkic scholars Ma Changshou and Cen Zhongmian, the Chinese word Tiele originates from the Turkic word "Türkler" (Turks), which is a plural form of "Türk" (Turk) and the Chinese word "Tujue" comes from the Turkic word "Türküt" which is a singular form of Türk.The origin of Gaoche can be traced back to the Dingling peoples of about 200 BC, contemporary with the Chinese Han Dynasty.

The first use of "Uyghur" as a reference to a political nation occurred during the interim period between the First and Second Göktürk Kaganates (630-684 AD). After the collapse of the Uyghur Empire in 840 AD, Uyghur resettled to the Tarim Basin.

In modern usage, "Uyghur" refers to settled Turkic urban-dwellers and farmers of Kashgaria and Jungaria or Uyghurstan who follow traditional Central Asian practices, as distinguished from nomadic Turkic populations in Central Asia The Bolsheviks reintroduced the term "Uyghur" to replace the previously used Turki.

Today, Uyghurs live mainly in Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, China, where they are the largest ethnic group. "Xinjiang", meaning "New Frontier", is the Chinese name of the Autonomous Region.

More to come about Uygur's tonight ,Huang Loon to understand whats going on in UYGUR and TİBET
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Postby Huang Loon » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:44 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Huang Loon wrote:Peace and huns shouldn't be used in the same context. my 2 cents on this


Thanks for that. I think by now even the slowest members of this forum (and you allege that I am one of them, so you can hardly deny me the right to speak on their behalf!) have gathered that you are some twisted individual consumed with a pathological hatred of a people you term the "Huns", a term that as far as I know is used to refer to the inhabitants of a political entity that existed in Medieval Central Asia, and a term that no people on earth today use to describe themselves. In other words, your "other" is a pure figment of your imagination. How sad is that?

That point having been established, have you anything new to say?


Nihao Tim

ni tai man le , ni que shi ying gai chu qu kai shi xin shen huo

Ask Awe to translate it for you.


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Postby CBBB » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:47 pm

You have run out of fried rice!!!
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Postby halil » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:51 pm

CBBB wrote:You have run out of fried rice!!!


no i will supply him lots of uyghur rice .... :lol:

even he can make vodka from it .
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Postby Huang Loon » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:54 pm

CBBB wrote:You have run out of fried rice!!!


Nihao CBBB

yes yes. You left out the slanty eyes and bucked teeth.

I can't help wondering what happened to Tim the man and Bananiot, the defenders against racism.

But then again you can't expect anything from people that frequent racists sites, can you? or from Bananniot the preacher.

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Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:55 pm

Huang Loon wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Huang Loon wrote:Peace and huns shouldn't be used in the same context. my 2 cents on this


Thanks for that. I think by now even the slowest members of this forum (and you allege that I am one of them, so you can hardly deny me the right to speak on their behalf!) have gathered that you are some twisted individual consumed with a pathological hatred of a people you term the "Huns", a term that as far as I know is used to refer to the inhabitants of a political entity that existed in Medieval Central Asia, and a term that no people on earth today use to describe themselves. In other words, your "other" is a pure figment of your imagination. How sad is that?

That point having been established, have you anything new to say?


Nihao Tim

ni tai man le , ni que shi ying gai chu qu kai shi xin shen huo

Ask Awe to translate it for you.


Wenhou

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I will assume that that is the Chinese for, "No, I haven't" and move on.
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