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[Piratis]

I understand by your proposal that tc returns greek held land prior to 74, and in exchange gc returns to tcs, their human rights.

You are the ones who violate our human rights and not the other way around. And even if some part of your human rights are violated, this is because you choose to support the continuation of the illegality and abnormality. This is not our choice but yours, so you can not complain if this illegality causes problems to you also.

All you have to agree is return to legality. You get 100% of what legally belongs to you and we simultaneously get back what legally belongs to us.
If you do not agree that we should get what belongs to us, then how can you complain that you do not get what belongs to you?

[magikthrill]

magikthrill

the question is why did they remain in the south and didnt move to the north?

talk about change the subject, maybe they like living with GCs who dont allow them to vote, their own schools, no representation, live in slums, they are referred as dirty gypsies, maybe its these factors that attract them to the ho so democratic south Cyprus.

i didnt change the subject i asked a question pertaining to the topic.

VP i can understand you belittling the members of the opposite evil GC community but your own community members as well?

Do you think the TCs that dont wish to illegally occupy someone else's land our traitors and all they are worth is living in slums being referred to as dirty gypsies?

[gabaston]

Yes I understand Piratis –

Us giving back the pre 74 land addresses the concerns of your human rights. But what I am asking is, what human rights have you denied us, that you now propose giving us back?

Please try and be a bit more specific.

[Piratis]

Us giving back the pre 74 land addresses the concerns of your human rights. But what I am asking is, what human rights have you denied us, that you now propose giving us back?

Please try and be a bit more specific.

There are human rights, political rights, legal rights. All of these rights should be given to both TCs and GCs simultaneously.

Legality should return with everything that this involves. It is not just about land.

We do not "deny" you any of your human rights, but some of the privileges (that involve some political rights) that you should get according to the 1960 agreements. When you allow the 1960 agreements to function as they should, then you get your rights, we get our rights.

However as long as you continue to support the illegality(occupation, "TRNC" etc) you deny our rights, and as a result you deny some of your own rights as well. So don't complain about not having some of your rights when you are the ones who choose to continue the illegality.

[Viewpoint]

magikthrill

Do you think the TCs that dont wish to illegally occupy someone else's land our traitors and all they are worth is living in slums being referred to as dirty gypsies?

This is not my evlauation its how GCs treat and view TCs in the south, if you were to visit the Turkish quarters in Limassol you would soon see what I mean, the TCs chosing to live in the south do so for a number of reasons from economic , political and even criminal acts (committed in the north). They are currently fighting to have the right to their own school (even we the unrecognized TRNC have a school for GCs) in the European south of the island. These peoples standard of living is well below those of average GCs and they are looked down upon by GCs, who view them as uneducated gypsies. I even met GCs after the borders had to been opened commenting, "we were told and thought you would all be like the TCs in Limassol, uneducated, uncultured and desolate, but now we can see for ourselves obviously you are not.....I dont view them as traitors, to me they have chosen to live in the south,if they are treated as equals, safe, happy and comfortable good luck to them.

[MicAtCyp]

Don’t you know that according to this stupid 1960 constitution that the British enforced to us the TCs are not allowed to vote in GC elections, not even to vote for the election of a GC President? Don't you know that they are only allowed to vote for a TC vice president? Don't you know that they abandoned the RoC when we told them the 1960 constitution has to change?
So what is all this weeping and crying and "i can beleive it" crap in this thread? What’s all this hypocricy?

Thank God the EU court said we have to change this stupid constitution. Otherwise if the RoC would do it by itself you would see all the Denktashes in here saying that we changed the constitution without the approval of the TCs!!!!

Thank you Mr Imbrahim Asiz for going to the ECHR and winning this case.

[MicAtCyp]

These peoples standard of living is well below those of average GCs and they are looked down upon by GCs, who view them as uneducated gypsies.

Deliberate distorter of the truth named VP:
Do you know that the majority of those people are NOT TCs but tzigane?Do you know that in the pseudo they were living in the fields whereas when they came to the free areas we had to convince them to live in houses? Do you know we had a hard time convincing them to let their children go to school because according to their ethics they should not?
Well go there ask them.Are you living better now and are you happier than what you were in the pseudo?
I am sure they will give you a straight answer.

PS.By the way it took us just one year to build them a new school that will operate in September in Turkish. How many years did it take you to just allow our high school to operate in Karpas? About 30?

[Viewpoint]

and my brother is the archbishop, I could respond to the crap you spout out but I wont stoop to your level, stop responding to my posts and ignore me like I have been ignoring you.

You know who you are

[suetoniuspaulinus]

Mr Kifeas

I hope that I've spelled your name corectly.

My Purpose?

Pleasure, Mr Kifeas, simply pleasure.

[garbitsch]

PS.By the way it took us just one year to build them a new school that will operate in September in Turkish. How many years did it take you to just allow our high school to operate in Karpas? About 30?

Lol!!!! No it also took you 30 years to build a Turkish primary school. There has alwats been a Greek primary school operating in Karpas since the beginning. We just opened a Secondary school which there are more teachers than students. You haven't even opened a Turkish school YET (even in south there had been a lot of discussion about it), although your government claims it also represents Turkish Cypriots.