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Bill to allow vote for Turkish Cypriots in south

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Postby suetoniuspaulinus » Tue May 17, 2005 8:17 pm

Why have TC's living in RoC been denied their right to vote. Re reading the article it is clear that the 1960 constitution is used and therefore a turkish vote is required to change it. BUT they are not allowed to vote????
Have they been denied their human rights all these years?????
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Postby magikthrill » Tue May 17, 2005 8:31 pm

yup that is pretty ridiculous suet.

the question is why did they remain in the south and didnt move to the north?
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue May 17, 2005 8:42 pm

magikthrill
the question is why did they remain in the south and didnt move to the north?


talk about change the subject, maybe they like living with GCs who dont allow them to vote, their own schools, no representation, live in slums, they are referred as dirty gypsies, maybe its these factors that attract them to the ho so democratic south Cyprus.
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Postby suetoniuspaulinus » Tue May 17, 2005 9:58 pm

Not the point. Nooo... Maybe not this point.

Have they lived there as citizens. If so why no vote????
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Postby Kifeas » Tue May 17, 2005 11:07 pm

suetoniuspaulinus wrote:Not the point. Nooo... Maybe not this point.

Have they lived there as citizens. If so why no vote????


sunetiuspaulinos,

Before answering your question, may I ask what is your purpose in this forum?
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Postby Piratis » Tue May 17, 2005 11:16 pm

When GCs start learning upholding the law (obeying their constitution) we will too (return the property).


How about doing these things at the same time? Return to legality requires the end of occupation. So how about: for every 1% of land that is returned, TCs get back 1% of their rights in RoC. When they 100% of land is returned, TCs will have the 100% of their rights.

Or maybe what you wanted to say is that you will get everything, and then give nothing, right?

The only reason that TCs didn't vote is because they wanted it this way. They don't want to be seen as just Cypriots with equal voting rights with Greek Cypriots. They want to have 4.5 times more voting power than GCs.
This is why they don't want the same voting rights like the GCs.
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Postby Kifeas » Tue May 17, 2005 11:46 pm

Piratis wrote:
When GCs start learning upholding the law (obeying their constitution) we will too (return the property).


How about doing these things at the same time? Return to legality requires the end of occupation. So how about: for every 1% of land that is returned, TCs get back 1% of their rights in RoC. When they 100% of land is returned, TCs will have the 100% of their rights.

Or maybe what you wanted to say is that you will get everything, and then give nothing, right?

The only reason that TCs didn't vote is because they wanted it this way. They don't want to be seen as just Cypriots with equal voting rights with Greek Cypriots. They want to have 4.5 times more voting power than GCs.
This is why they don't want the same voting rights like the GCs.


Pirate,
Do you realise that you have just made a totally pointless observation?
Do the TCs belong to the same caste with the GCs? Have you never heard that TCs belong to a superior caste and therefore must have much more individual rights than those belonging to the caste of the untouchables like the GCs? This system of castes exists also in India, which copied it from us, during the Ottoman period in Cyprus.
Don't you know that since the period of the Ottoman Turks, the GCs belonged to the caste of Rayias (untouchables) and therefore they (GCs) were required to pay double tax to the Sultan than the superior caste of the TC muslims, who were only obliged to pay half?
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Postby Chrisswirl » Tue May 17, 2005 11:52 pm

I'm not sure I'm following the flow of the conversation but I think it's unbeleivable that Turkish Cypriots didn't have the right to vote in the first place, especially in recent times when Turkish Cypriots have expressed a wish to do so.
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Postby Kifeas » Wed May 18, 2005 12:15 am

Chrisswirl wrote:I'm not sure I'm following the flow of the conversation but I think it's unbeleivable that Turkish Cypriots didn't have the right to vote in the first place, especially in recent times when Turkish Cypriots have expressed a wish to do so.


I am sorry my friend, I just missed your question. Can you repeat it please?
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Postby gabaston » Wed May 18, 2005 12:23 am

Mr Piratis


I understand by your proposal that tc returns greek held land prior to 74, and in exchange gc returns to tcs, their human rights.

Ok so we understand what we are supposed to give, but before considering your proposal further, can you please explain to us which of our human rights you propose giving us back?
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