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Mohamed's 6 year old bride/wife

Postby FreeSpirit » Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:23 am

There is a new book out about the six year old wife of Mohamed, anyone know where I can get a copy for Garry Glitter?[/b]
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Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:42 am

Mohammed, at the age of 49, married Aisha when she was 6, but the marriage was not consecrated until she reached the age of 9!
This is according to a number of hadith, or sayings about the life of the prophet, which are considered to be reliable by Muslims (e.g. Bukhari, Es-Sahih 44).
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Re: Mohamed's 6 year old bride/wife

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:45 am

FreeSpirit wrote:There is a new book out about the six year old wife of Mohamed, anyone know where I can get a copy for Garry Glitter?[/b]

Glitter wrote the foreword :wink:
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Postby tessintrnc » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:07 pm

US publishers have dropped the book "the jewel of Medina", but a Danish publishing house is going ahead:

"The novel was brought into the spotlight in the US after Denise Spellman, a professor of Islamic history at the University of Texas, was quoted in the Wall Street Journal as saying the book was 'much more controversial than the Mohammed drawings from Denmark'. She called any decision to publish the book a 'declaration of war' against Muslims. Spellman called the novel 'soft-core pornography' and that it 'takes advantage of people's ignorance' of Islam".

In light of all the prolems over the cartoons, I can't help thinking that this is indeed deliberate provocation. :roll:
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Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:15 pm

tessintrnc wrote: [...] it 'takes advantage of people's ignorance' of Islam".[/i]


Well, if people are ignorant of Islam, let us enlighten them. The following quotes all come from highly regarded Islamic sources:

From Bukhari vol. 7, #65:
"Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: "I have been informed that Aisha remained with the prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).""
From the Hadith of Sahih Muslim, Vol 2, #3309
Aisha reported: Allah’s Messenger married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine….
From Abu Dawud, Vol. 2, #2116:
"Aisha said, "The Apostle of Allah married me when I was seven years old." (The narrator Sulaiman said: "Or six years."). "He had intercourse with me when I was 9 years old."
From Tabari, volume 9, page 131
"Then the men and women got up and left. The Messenger of God consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old. Neither a camel nor a sheep was slaughtered on behalf of me".

http://bibleprobe.com/muhammad-aisha.htm
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:20 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:Mohammed, at the age of 49, married Aisha when she was 6, but the marriage was not consecrated until she reached the age of 9!
This is according to a number of hadith, or sayings about the life of the prophet, which are considered to be reliable by Muslims (e.g. Bukhari, Es-Sahih 44).




*consummated? :?
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Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:21 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Mohammed, at the age of 49, married Aisha when she was 6, but the marriage was not consecrated until she reached the age of 9!
This is according to a number of hadith, or sayings about the life of the prophet, which are considered to be reliable by Muslims (e.g. Bukhari, Es-Sahih 44).




*consummated? :?


You are correct.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:33 pm

I wonder what the Arabic word used was?
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Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:58 pm

denizaksulu wrote:I wonder what the Arabic word used was?


Are you suggesting that perhaps Westerners have mistranslated these hadith with the aim of presenting a false picture? The following quote may be of interest:

http://www.exmuslim.com/com/evidence.htm

DEFINITION OF THE WORD TRANSLATED AS "CONSUMMATE"
There has been some confusion about the definition of the word "consummate". In Sahih Bukhari, vol. 7, #64, the root word used is "dakhala". From the Hans-Wehr Arabic-English Dictionary p273, it means "to enter, to pierce, to penetrate, to consummate the marriage, cohabit, sleep with a woman". I have also asked two native Arabic speakers to confirm the definition of the word used in Bukhari. They read Bukhari in Arabic for themselves, and did indeed say it meant that Muhammad had sexual intercourse with Aisha when she was 9.


This root "dakhala" is the source of the Turkish word "dahil".
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Postby pantheman » Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:00 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Mohammed, at the age of 49, married Aisha when she was 6, but the marriage was not consecrated until she reached the age of 9!
This is according to a number of hadith, or sayings about the life of the prophet, which are considered to be reliable by Muslims (e.g. Bukhari, Es-Sahih 44).




*consummated? :?


No Deniz, he sexually abused a 9 yo child and used is position to do so. Some Islam huh?

You can keep it mate.
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