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[humanist]

VP

Tell us how you expect to achieve your goal? allowing for the 80% 20% imbalance and the biased and racist views of both sides.

Thus far on this forum I have seen racism come from the Turkish speaking Cypriot Community and their arguments why we cannot unite as one people in our country. But the exception of a very few TC's the rest are about partition of various forms.


VP

If Turkey drops out of the EU process you will have no leverage to force concessions to get control of the whole island end of story.

IF is the operative word there.

So why doesn't Turkey drop the EU dream and going int alone. End of story there. You see the minute Turkey drops its EU dream she gone from Cyprus. One way or another Turkey will be gone the minute it drops the dream. You have threatened and by you I mean VP keeps threatenning but we never hear of a Turk in Anakara making such threats. Why not I winder?

[pantheman]

Good post andrea, thats exactly what I have been saying all long. VP refuses to believe it, he is just dreaming.

IF Turkey wanted out of the EU, she would have gone ages ago period.

Again excellent post

[humanist]

Thank you pantheman ........ sometimes early morning is best time to think clearly. I welcome any Cypriot to share our Island. As far as Turkey and UK goes well ................ out of Cyprus please/

[Viewpoint]

You are both dreaming, Turkey is not a European country that can embrace and adopt EU principles, the sheer fact that if Turkey gets anywhere near entry she will have the biggest say in the EU according to population will ensure that the goals posts will continue to change so as not to allow full membership. I applaud France and Germany for being honest and saying that only special partnership will be available, the others are bullshiting as they would not allow Turkey into the EU, they will use aby excuse especially the GCs to keep her out.

Just exactly have I been saying thats racist? I support either a level playing field for people to choose which side they wish to reside and under which administration, whats racist about this. I support all refugees get rights back to their properties where physically possible and compensation for those where it is not.

I support all armies GO after a comprehensive solution is agreed.

I support Maraş be returned after a comprehensive solution is agreed.

I support settlers on both sides go home after applying EU principles.

But knowing that neither side has vision or the desire to compromise on the above to create a new united Cyprus, agreed partition is the only real viable solution, feel free to prove me wrong.

[Cem]

You are both dreaming, Turkey is not a European country that can embrace and adopt EU principles, the sheer fact that if Turkey gets anywhere near entry she will have the biggest say in the EU according to population will ensure that the goals posts will continue to change so as not to allow full membership. I applaud France and Germany for being honest and saying that only special partnership will be available, the others are bullshiting as they would not allow Turkey into the EU, they will use aby excuse especially the GCs to keep her out.

Just exactly have I been saying thats racist? I support either a level playing field for people to choose which side they wish to reside and under which administration, whats racist about this. I support all refugees get rights back to their properties where physically possible and compensation for those where it is not.

I support all armies GO after a comprehensive solution is agreed.

I support Maraş be returned after a comprehensive solution is agreed.

I support settlers on both sides go home after applying EU principles.

But knowing that neither side has vision or the desire to compromise on the above to create a new united Cyprus, agreed partition is the only real viable solution, feel free to prove me wrong.

Admitting that Turkey will help finding a solution to CyProb, still, she will never be a full member of E.U.

In case Turkey turns nasty, RoC has the power to veto, that much is agreed.

What Roc and Greece don't have, is the power to help to speed up Turkey's admission in the event of a solution to Cyprob.

This unfortunately something that can not happen as there are plenty of other E.U states opposed to her membership not only France and Germany, the big boys of E.U.

So, what we have here is an asymmetrical power situation.

I personally both like and respect president Christophias, but I think he should revise his strategy if it is solely banking on Turkey's (improbable) E.U membership.

[EPSILON]

You are both dreaming, Turkey is not a European country that can embrace and adopt EU principles, the sheer fact that if Turkey gets anywhere near entry she will have the biggest say in the EU according to population will ensure that the goals posts will continue to change so as not to allow full membership. I applaud France and Germany for being honest and saying that only special partnership will be available, the others are bullshiting as they would not allow Turkey into the EU, they will use aby excuse especially the GCs to keep her out.

Just exactly have I been saying thats racist? I support either a level playing field for people to choose which side they wish to reside and under which administration, whats racist about this. I support all refugees get rights back to their properties where physically possible and compensation for those where it is not.

I support all armies GO after a comprehensive solution is agreed.

I support Maraş be returned after a comprehensive solution is agreed.

I support settlers on both sides go home after applying EU principles.

But knowing that neither side has vision or the desire to compromise on the above to create a new united Cyprus, agreed partition is the only real viable solution, feel free to prove me wrong.

Admitting that Turkey will help finding a solution to CyProb, still, she will never be a full member of E.U.

In case Turkey turns nasty, RoC has the power to veto, that much is agreed.

What Roc and Greece don't have, is the power to help to speed up Turkey's admission in the event of a solution to Cyprob.

This unfortunately something that can not happen as there are plenty of other E.U states opposed to her membership not only France and Germany, the big boys of E.U.

So, what we have here is an asymmetrical power situation.

I personally both like and respect president Christophias, but I think he should revise his strategy if it is solely banking on Turkey's (improbable) E.U membership.

Stop blaiming EU, Greece, Cyprus for Turkish membeship problems.
Problem is only one , nothing else, Turks are not Europeans, they are trying to be a copy!!!We do not accept copies- we just a clearly acept originals!!!!

[Cem]

You are both dreaming, Turkey is not a European country that can embrace and adopt EU principles, the sheer fact that if Turkey gets anywhere near entry she will have the biggest say in the EU according to population will ensure that the goals posts will continue to change so as not to allow full membership. I applaud France and Germany for being honest and saying that only special partnership will be available, the others are bullshiting as they would not allow Turkey into the EU, they will use aby excuse especially the GCs to keep her out.

Just exactly have I been saying thats racist? I support either a level playing field for people to choose which side they wish to reside and under which administration, whats racist about this. I support all refugees get rights back to their properties where physically possible and compensation for those where it is not.

I support all armies GO after a comprehensive solution is agreed.

I support Maraş be returned after a comprehensive solution is agreed.

I support settlers on both sides go home after applying EU principles.

But knowing that neither side has vision or the desire to compromise on the above to create a new united Cyprus, agreed partition is the only real viable solution, feel free to prove me wrong.

Admitting that Turkey will help finding a solution to CyProb, still, she will never be a full member of E.U.

In case Turkey turns nasty, RoC has the power to veto, that much is agreed.

What Roc and Greece don't have, is the power to help to speed up Turkey's admission in the event of a solution to Cyprob.

This unfortunately something that can not happen as there are plenty of other E.U states opposed to her membership not only France and Germany, the big boys of E.U.

So, what we have here is an asymmetrical power situation.

I personally both like and respect president Christophias, but I think he should revise his strategy if it is solely banking on Turkey's (improbable) E.U membership.

Stop blaiming EU, Greece, Cyprus for Turkish membeship problems.
Problem is only one , nothing else, Turks are not Europeans, they are trying to be a copy!!!We do not accept copies- we just a clearly acept originals!!!!

Who is blaming who ?? But, I am happy with the way it goes mon cher !
So is Bakayonni and Simitis, who pretend Greece is supporting Turkey's E.U bullshit.
So is Erdogan, thus fostering his "pro-western" image and using E.U as means for control over the whining army as long as the process is vibrant.
So is President X and GC politbureau who thus show to the world that RoC can be a roaring mice in case turks don't make concessions on Cyprob.
The show is going on and everyone is happy, why blaming people ??

[EPSILON]

You are both dreaming, Turkey is not a European country that can embrace and adopt EU principles, the sheer fact that if Turkey gets anywhere near entry she will have the biggest say in the EU according to population will ensure that the goals posts will continue to change so as not to allow full membership. I applaud France and Germany for being honest and saying that only special partnership will be available, the others are bullshiting as they would not allow Turkey into the EU, they will use aby excuse especially the GCs to keep her out.

Just exactly have I been saying thats racist? I support either a level playing field for people to choose which side they wish to reside and under which administration, whats racist about this. I support all refugees get rights back to their properties where physically possible and compensation for those where it is not.

I support all armies GO after a comprehensive solution is agreed.

I support Maraş be returned after a comprehensive solution is agreed.

I support settlers on both sides go home after applying EU principles.

But knowing that neither side has vision or the desire to compromise on the above to create a new united Cyprus, agreed partition is the only real viable solution, feel free to prove me wrong.

Admitting that Turkey will help finding a solution to CyProb, still, she will never be a full member of E.U.

In case Turkey turns nasty, RoC has the power to veto, that much is agreed.

What Roc and Greece don't have, is the power to help to speed up Turkey's admission in the event of a solution to Cyprob.

This unfortunately something that can not happen as there are plenty of other E.U states opposed to her membership not only France and Germany, the big boys of E.U.

So, what we have here is an asymmetrical power situation.

I personally both like and respect president Christophias, but I think he should revise his strategy if it is solely banking on Turkey's (improbable) E.U membership.

Stop blaiming EU, Greece, Cyprus for Turkish membeship problems.
Problem is only one , nothing else, Turks are not Europeans, they are trying to be a copy!!!We do not accept copies- we just a clearly acept originals!!!!

Who is blaming who ?? But, I am happy with the way it goes mon cher !
So is Bakayonni and Simitis, who pretend Greece is supporting Turkey's E.U bullshit.
So is Erdogan, thus fostering his "pro-western" image and using E.U as means for control over the whining army as long as the process is vibrant.
So is President X and GC politbureau who thus show to the world that RoC can be a roaring mice in case turks don't make concessions on Cyprob.
The show is going on and everyone is happy, why blaming people ??

You are just mixing up the policy of @"get keep the lion sleapping" fro real facts.

[repulsewarrior]

You are both dreaming, Turkey is not a European country that can embrace and adopt EU principles, the sheer fact that if Turkey gets anywhere near entry she will have the biggest say in the EU according to population will ensure that the goals posts will continue to change so as not to allow full membership. I applaud France and Germany for being honest and saying that only special partnership will be available, the others are bullshiting as they would not allow Turkey into the EU, they will use aby excuse especially the GCs to keep her out.

Just exactly have I been saying thats racist? I support either a level playing field for people to choose which side they wish to reside and under which administration, whats racist about this. I support all refugees get rights back to their properties where physically possible and compensation for those where it is not.

I support all armies GO after a comprehensive solution is agreed.

I support Maraş be returned after a comprehensive solution is agreed.

I support settlers on both sides go home after applying EU principles.

But knowing that neither side has vision or the desire to compromise on the above to create a new united Cyprus, agreed partition is the only real viable solution, feel free to prove me wrong.

"I support all refugees get rights back to their properties where physically possible and compensation for those where it is not."

...and I ask you again, what is wrong with enclaves?

[Cem]

You are both dreaming, Turkey is not a European country that can embrace and adopt EU principles, the sheer fact that if Turkey gets anywhere near entry she will have the biggest say in the EU according to population will ensure that the goals posts will continue to change so as not to allow full membership. I applaud France and Germany for being honest and saying that only special partnership will be available, the others are bullshiting as they would not allow Turkey into the EU, they will use aby excuse especially the GCs to keep her out.

Just exactly have I been saying thats racist? I support either a level playing field for people to choose which side they wish to reside and under which administration, whats racist about this. I support all refugees get rights back to their properties where physically possible and compensation for those where it is not.

I support all armies GO after a comprehensive solution is agreed.

I support Maraş be returned after a comprehensive solution is agreed.

I support settlers on both sides go home after applying EU principles.

But knowing that neither side has vision or the desire to compromise on the above to create a new united Cyprus, agreed partition is the only real viable solution, feel free to prove me wrong.

Admitting that Turkey will help finding a solution to CyProb, still, she will never be a full member of E.U.

In case Turkey turns nasty, RoC has the power to veto, that much is agreed.

What Roc and Greece don't have, is the power to help to speed up Turkey's admission in the event of a solution to Cyprob.

This unfortunately something that can not happen as there are plenty of other E.U states opposed to her membership not only France and Germany, the big boys of E.U.

So, what we have here is an asymmetrical power situation.

I personally both like and respect president Christophias, but I think he should revise his strategy if it is solely banking on Turkey's (improbable) E.U membership.

Stop blaiming EU, Greece, Cyprus for Turkish membeship problems.
Problem is only one , nothing else, Turks are not Europeans, they are trying to be a copy!!!We do not accept copies- we just a clearly acept originals!!!!

Who is blaming who ?? But, I am happy with the way it goes mon cher !
So is Bakayonni and Simitis, who pretend Greece is supporting Turkey's E.U bullshit.
So is Erdogan, thus fostering his "pro-western" image and using E.U as means for control over the whining army as long as the process is vibrant.
So is President X and GC politbureau who thus show to the world that RoC can be a roaring mice in case turks don't make concessions on Cyprob.
The show is going on and everyone is happy, why blaming people ??

You are just mixing up the policy of @"get keep the lion sleapping" fro real facts.

Er...Can you translate the sentence after @ using a spelling checker if possible, please ??