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[Get Real!]

All the members are here http://www.icj-cij.org/court/index.php?p1=1&p2=2&p3=2

Those are judges you incompetent goofball!

If you are not a member (refers to members and their country on the page) and do not contribute to the process the judgements cannot be enforced.

That's just a historical list of past and present judges and their country of origin, some of which have passed away as it says!

Absolutely NOTHING to do with STATE "membership"!

[Viewpoint]

All the members are here http://www.icj-cij.org/court/index.php?p1=1&p2=2&p3=2

Those are judges you incompetent goofball!

If you are not a member (refers to members and their country on the page) and do not contribute to the process the judgements cannot be enforced.

That's just a historical list of past and present judges and their country of origin, some of which have passed away as it says!

Absolutely NOTHING to do with STATE "membership"!

Look at the list of cases, not one against Turkey, ask yourself why?

[Get Real!]

All the members are here http://www.icj-cij.org/court/index.php?p1=1&p2=2&p3=2

Those are judges you incompetent goofball!

If you are not a member (refers to members and their country on the page) and do not contribute to the process the judgements cannot be enforced.

That's just a historical list of past and present judges and their country of origin, some of which have passed away as it says!

Absolutely NOTHING to do with STATE "membership"!

Look at the list of cases, not one against Turkey, ask yourself why?

Oh sorry... I misread your last post...

Do you think there should be a case against Turkey?

[Kifeas]

Serbia wins right to challenge Kosovo at ICJ

Serbia can challenge the legality of Kosovo’s independence in the highest court of international law, the United Nations General Assembly decided on Tuesday.
The Serbian resolution requesting an opinion from the International Court of Justice won approval by a wide margin thanks to numerous abstentions, including by European Union member states that have recognised Kosovo.
Serbia’s Foreign Minister hailed the UN General Assembly’s move to question the legality of Kosovo’s independence at the World Court saying it was a victory for international law.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/040b1848-9567 ... ck_check=1


This is also a victory for Cyprus, for we now have the option to force Turkey to appear in front of the ICJ, as soon as things come to a head, thought the EU and the UN General Assembly. "Mama Turka, you want to become an EU member country? Fine! Before discussing further on the issue, let’s see first how legal was your 1974 invation, and the subeseqent up to this date occupation of more than 1/3 of the RoC. If you do not accept the ICJ verdict, then it means you do not accept international law, which means that you do not also have a place among the civilised nations of this planet –more so among the EU the UN and the Council of Europe!" Let’s see if our (GC) politicians have guts!

The ICJ will issue a non binding opinion which will not alter anything. You are confusing International Law, the UN and the ICJ although they are all related to each other. A country can be recognised and not be a member of member of the UN within International Law as was the case of Switzerland for a long time. The whole issue is just hot air.

The Cyprus issue will never be taken up by the ICJ since Turkey would have to agree to it. If you think that that the EU has the leverage to force Turkey to do so than I suggest you go ask Greece if they ended up at the ICJ in 2004 or not and if the EU applied sancations on Turkey for not doing so.

Hey kipper, don't you think that because the 1974 Turkish "peace operation" and the subsequent "liberation" of "Turkish Cyprus" from its Greek Cypriot "illegal occupiers" was a perfectly "legal" undertaking under international law, Turkey should or will have no real problem or reason in accepting the jurisdiction and verdict of the ICJ?

Since Turkey’s undertakings in Cyprus were and are all “legal” and “legitimate” (at least that is what Turkey says,) why would it (Turkey) have any reason not to accept the ICJ’s ruling? Please, kipper, do enlighten us! And you, VP!

[Nikitas]

It is a condition of Eu membership that member nations forego force as a means of solving their disputes and agree to accept ICJ jurisdiction.

So for Turkey it is a race against time to settle its differences with Greece and Cyprus, both member nations of the EU, before membership negotiations reach a serious point.

With Greece they will try to get a side deal on the territorial waters issue. Problem is Turkey has nothing to offer in return for Greece not exercising its right under the Law of the Sea convention to extend its waters to `12 miles.

In Cyprus there can be no deal since Turkey does not recognise Cyprus.

What the Turks have not grasped yet is that there can be no negotiated entry qualifications. They either fulfill conditions or they do not, they cannot bargain around the fundamentals. The other 27 nations who joined had to fulfill conditions, it is unlikely they will collectively let a new member avoid and evade the tests.

[DT.]

All the members are here http://www.icj-cij.org/court/index.php?p1=1&p2=2&p3=2

Those are judges you incompetent goofball!

If you are not a member (refers to members and their country on the page) and do not contribute to the process the judgements cannot be enforced.

This is a list of past individuals who were members (judges) and the country they came from. What have you been smoking?

[Get Real!]

All the members are here http://www.icj-cij.org/court/index.php?p1=1&p2=2&p3=2

Those are judges you incompetent goofball!

If you are not a member (refers to members and their country on the page) and do not contribute to the process the judgements cannot be enforced.

This is a list of past individuals who were members (judges) and the country they came from. What have you been smoking?

Homegrown Turkish hashish...

[Viewpoint]

It is a condition of Eu membership that member nations forego force as a means of solving their disputes and agree to accept ICJ jurisdiction.

So for Turkey it is a race against time to settle its differences with Greece and Cyprus, both member nations of the EU, before membership negotiations reach a serious point.

With Greece they will try to get a side deal on the territorial waters issue. Problem is Turkey has nothing to offer in return for Greece not exercising its right under the Law of the Sea convention to extend its waters to `12 miles.

In Cyprus there can be no deal since Turkey does not recognise Cyprus.

What the Turks have not grasped yet is that there can be no negotiated entry qualifications. They either fulfill conditions or they do not, they cannot bargain around the fundamentals. The other 27 nations who joined had to fulfill conditions, it is unlikely they will collectively let a new member avoid and evade the tests.

Turkey will not make it, its only a matter time if not already that they to realize this. Where will your leverage be then? and how will effect your cause to turn the whole of Cyprus into a GC state run by GCs for GCs.

[Viewpoint]

All the members are here http://www.icj-cij.org/court/index.php?p1=1&p2=2&p3=2

Those are judges you incompetent goofball!

If you are not a member (refers to members and their country on the page) and do not contribute to the process the judgements cannot be enforced.

This is a list of past individuals who were members (judges) and the country they came from. What have you been smoking?

You obviously do not believe me ask Kifeas for an explanation.

[halil]

So what will happen now ?

Serbia's neighbors recognize Kosovo.

Montenegro and Macedonia, the only two former Yugoslav republics that ended their union with Serbia peacefully, recognized Kosovo on Thursday and issued a joint statement.

you see how they are playing the games !

As a TC's how can i trust the EU, USA ,UN's and Russia ....

they are playing their cards always .

İCJ also part of the game .... judges are plays same games as well ...everything is political ....benefits of the powers....

During dark days of the 63-64 we were crying for help .... where were they ?
and where are they will be today ?

Benefits....benefits....benefits .......

scream if they can hear you !

If they have benefits .... they can