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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:53 pm

Get Real! wrote:
observer wrote:If you don’t believe that GCs attempted to ethnically cleanse TCs between 1963 and 1974 then you either don’t know the history of Cyprus or you are in self denial. It wasn’t an extended camping trip.

Tough titties! You should've NEVER come here in the first place. Now kindly paddle back where you came from to avoid any further misunderstandings…



We are here now. Be a good boy and talk. :twisted:
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Postby humanist » Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:44 pm

who is this dumb arse observer? if Cyprus was once occupied by Turks then it was also once occupied by Greeks so get the F*** out then. Becaue it is not Turkish now.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:16 pm

humanist wrote:who is this dumb arse observer? if Cyprus was once occupied by Turks then it was also once occupied by Greeks so get the F*** out then. Becaue it is not Turkish now.


He said it was Turkish...was being the operaitve word. Thats why we have claims because we are just as much owners of this island as you GCs.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:00 am

No one "owns" the Island.

It is a democratically run, self-determined country, serving its citizens.

You are not its citizens if you wish to be ruled by Turkey.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:24 am

according to Turkey, there is no Roc. according to Turkey the Treaty of Lausanne was signed under duress. Turkey would have us believe, that as a colonialist power it did not loose this possesion to another colonialist power close to one hundred years ago.

as for the actual inhabitants of the island, they are, and never were of any importance. Turkey's failure to assimilate Cypriots after hundreds of years is a demonstration of how little this possesion means to Turkey and its own Patrimony. we can only hope that the movement toward reform in Turkey includes the recognition of Basic Human Rights, and a desire to demonstrate their respect for them.
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Postby observer » Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:15 pm

Oracle wrote:No one "owns" the Island.

It is a democratically run, self-determined country, serving its citizens.

You are not its citizens if you wish to be ruled by Turkey.


We get close to the point here. From 1960 to 1974 it only served its GC citizens, and RoC is currently a Hellenic democracy, GC-determined and serving its GC citizens.
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Postby DT. » Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:23 pm

observer wrote:
Oracle wrote:No one "owns" the Island.

It is a democratically run, self-determined country, serving its citizens.

You are not its citizens if you wish to be ruled by Turkey.


We get close to the point here. From 1960 to 1974 it only served its GC citizens, and RoC is currently a Hellenic democracy, GC-determined and serving its GC citizens.


That's were you're wrong. It has over 50,000 TC citizens with current Cyprus passports. Its public services that serve these Tc's are medical, educational, transit, commerce, bureaucratic, agricultural, finance and internal affairs.

Where do you see the solely Gc state?
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Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:43 pm

...so in the north, i suppose that the Turkish Cypriots have founded for themselves a model of democracy which is not mono-clonal? ...it would seem a logical extension from your critique observer.

i do not think past governments in the south have done an excellent job of being inclusive, and i also believe that the solution to the Cyprus Problem is Constitutional reform. however, both Turkish Cypriots, and Greek Cypriots must consider the island, its Patrimony, the Heritance that is important to all Humanity first. selfish interests based on an adversarial politic and enmity has not brought us any peace after so many years. leaving the population isolated from each other along ethnic lines does not seem to provide the respect that is necessary among people in this Modern Age. we will better our condition when efforts are made to allow for a changing demographic and a growing population in a world that is becoming in real terms, smaller and smaller.

one governance, or three will sustain us. two will provide for this impasse to continue.
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Postby kentish » Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:04 pm

you stupid mugs,there is a divide just take a look at the island.the alternative to the tc is just too dangerous,if you think anything is going to change just dream on.a gc idea of unification is driving tc off the island
its going to take a cleverer person than you load of mugs to solve this one
enjoy life on a divided island , it sounds ok to me
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Postby paliometoxo » Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:04 pm

re-unification?!?!? how the F is two states re unification?!?!?!
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