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[suetoniuspaulinus]

Mr Magik thrill

You are indeed correct on this point.

May I ask if your unorthodox signature in some way reflects your moniker

[magikthrill]

what is moniker?

[Murtaza]

Mr Magik thrill

You are indeed correct on this point.

May I ask if your unorthodox signature in some way reflects your moniker

I think We should not let to a solution in cyprus. It looks like what they learn from communicatin with each other is not good:)

[metecyp]

admin gotune koyayim

I hope the admin doesn't see this...very insulting.

[magikthrill]

admin gotune koyayim

I hope the admin doesn't see this...very insulting.

well maybe the admin needs a turkish speaking moderator to help things out. until then my signature will suffice.

[turkcyp]

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[magikthrill]

Now I know you will say but every country has 12 miles? Every country does not have a shore in Aegean. A small sea with more than 3000 islands, islets, and rock some even lying 1 to 12 miles of Turkish mainland and hundreds miles away from mainland Greece.

Tell me who is being more provocative in here?

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sorry turkcyp but i couldnt understand your post.

are you implying that because these islets, islands, rocks are closer to Turkey it makes more sense for them to belong to Turkey?!

[detailer]

Sorry for your name, Achilles

"This is irrelevant. I am talking about where the ancestors of the Ottomans and the majority of modern TUrks came from. "

you said
"Turkish minority has been found there as a result of the long lasting occupation of the Ottoman empire." as an excuse they dont have any right for autonmy.

"On the other hand, what is unofficially called 'Kurdistan' has been the land of the Kurdish peoples, even before the Turkomongolic tribes left the plains of Mongolia. "

You are always mentioning turkic invaded anotolia or greece to undervalue the turkish existence in these places and I am saying that modern turkish is not the turkic of that time. pardon me, but I dont think you know the ethnic system in Anotolia. Anotolia is not like balkans where ethnic groups all preserve their identity. A modern Turkish can have a bit of turkic,kurdish,greek... genes.

Anyway, even if we are the turkic of that time, that does not undervalue our existence or deny the possibility of demanding autonomy in western thrace or any other places . History=invasion.

"You make it sound as if being or looking like a Mongolian is a curse. If this is you implication, allow me to disagree. Same goes with looking like an Albanian, as far as i am concerned. I do not really see the issue here. "

I wouldnt mind I look like a mongolian either.

"This is a very biased and misleading statement. All minorities have problems adapting smoothly to any society. Look at the United States a few decades ago, just to name one example to comes to mind. The major issues have overcomes and now they are operating quite smoothly within the Greek society. And i will refrain from commenting on how mainland Turkey has been treating its ethnic minorities for centuries and centuries. Shall i remind you of the young-turks?
A humble suggestion is that its always a good thing to be self-critical before judging others with the most strict criteria on 'treating ethnic minorities'. "

I am trying to concentrate on the current time rather than past . Past is full of mistakes for everyone in this place of the world.

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Two quick comments. A good number of credible historical sources present Oddyseas Androutsos, a true hero of the Greek Revolution, to be an original muslim in terms of religious stance. Yet, he fought ferociously against the Ottoman rule. Are you still positive that such a thing never existed in history? "

Nice chat about history. Look at the name of this guy. A REAL muslim especially that time does not use this name and even if he was a real muslim that does not change anything. The Turkish people in western Thrace are called "greek muslims" just because they are in the other side of the river. They dont have any difference from the ones in Eastern Thrace.

"This looks like a not-very-bright question...can you please explain to me what do you mean by 'high positions' and under which criteria a Turk could have occupied one?"

I agree that it is a simple question if you have an answer though. Please Tell me some popular "muslim" named guys in Greece (a singer, a politician who can get vote from greeks or a footballer maybe). Someone can give you plenty of examples of kurdish people like that in Turkey.

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This looks like another fine piece of Turkish whinning.

Those people can call themselves whatever they like. I MYSELF call them Turks and have no problem if they introduce themselves to me as Turks. Yet, they are citizens of the Greek state and as such their citizenship is GREEK. I dont think this is tough to grasp.

Last time i checked,a Greek living in Constantinople is a Turkish citizen.
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They are GREEK citizens. No one has a problem with that. The problem is they can not put the word "turkish" for example in their coffee shop or in their mosque. But the church in Istanbul is called "Greek Church" for example.

And I can see that you are a reasonable person. I think you wouldnt like it if I refer to cities in greece with their turkish names.


Cheers.

[Main_Source]

Turkcyp answer me,

How do you explain Turkish jets flying over Andros??

http://www.maps-of-greece.com/maps-of-g ... dros-m.htm

[gabaston]

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