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[magikthrill]

look

the term Greek Muslims was used obbiouvly so they wont seek any claims to self-determination or special rights, the way the Turkish Cretes had done in the early 1900s which led to their expulsion from the island after the first balkan war.

so some may see it as a negative thing but it also assured that these Turkish Greeks or Greek Muslims would remain safe in Thrace regardless of what happened because they are Greek. Don't forget this happend in 1922.

either way all these populations have assimilated into the Greek lifestyle and the only thing theyve majorly kept is their religion, so they really dont care about political isssues as long as they are free to live their lives.

and yes they wre discriminated in the 50s the same way the greeks in istanbul were thanks to their cypriots "brothers" who decided to wreak havoc but this is no longer the case.

[gabaston]

They were part of an altogether different tribe known as The Scoucers.

By the way to any Scoucers kurdish or not. Well done guys, welcome and good luck in Istanbul........

[Murtaza]

Well when Turgut Özal is prime minister and Abdulkadir Aksu is interior minister, I need a free country. Ah but not. Because They work for benefit of Turkey, and they dont think they are minority. Do you know some course of the Kurdish language are closing, because lack of student. And No the people who give this classes neither Turk nor work for Goverment.

but they are a different ethnicity from the majority of the country. how can they NOT be a minority?

Well acording to agrement who made with greece there is just one minority in each country. Muslim(Who cant call themself Turks) in Greece and Christian minorty.

And In Ottoman Turk are different ethnicity from the majority of country. Did this make them a minority.A minorty is some people who cant affect politics of country. and I think this is the main problem of Cyprus too. Cyprus Turk dont want to be a minority. They want to be effect politics of Cyprus. So change your mind. Do you know how many different ethnic group Turkey have?

There is a word for Turkey. "The place where 52,5 millet live"

When EU want Alevies(Another Ethnic group) should be called Minority, They object this demand. And no we want to be majority, a main part of Turkish comunity.Not a minority.

[Murtaza]

bro

LOL...actually i was asking murtaza the questions but thanks for replying anyway.

LOL Infact you should actually ask it gabaston. He is the one who dont know not me

[brother]

ooopsss...did i drop a clanger there, garbaston are u in u.k?

[Murtaza]

look

the term Greek Muslims was used obbiouvly so they wont seek any claims to self-determination or special rights, the way the Turkish Cretes had done in the early 1900s which led to their expulsion from the island after the first balkan war.

so some may see it as a negative thing but it also assured that these Turkish Greeks or Greek Muslims would remain safe in Thrace regardless of what happened because they are Greek. Don't forget this happend in 1922.

Ah so it is good for Turkish people. How bad we are:( And I think you should not remind Cretes to Cyprus Turk. This wont make a good point for agreement. And you accuse of Turkey because They expulse Greeks(I dont say this right) from north of Cyprus for the sake of Turkish lifes? Just a bad argument point. You should change this. I think.

[gabaston]

yep

London...............awaiting a f sollution so i can live in Cyprus.
Also spend time in Istanbul, and Girne though.

[magikthrill]

Ah so it is good for Turkish people. How bad we are:( And I think you should not remind Cretes to Cyprus Turk. This wont make a good point for agreement. And you accuse of Turkey because They expulse Greeks(I dont say this right) from north of Cyprus for the sake of Turkish lifes? Just a bad argument point. You should change this. I think.

murtaza,

i never juxtaposed Turkish Cretes to Turkish Cypriots. I only referred to it in the context of the greek muslims. they can call themselves turks if they wont but the greek gov't , as stated by the treaty of lausanne, needs not refer them to this, so why should they if this could only create problems.

[brother]

But recently they have been going to court and been trying to get the greek goverment to give them the right to be called turks and the greek courts keep turning them down.

Is this not a sign of their desire for autonomy or at bleast recognition for being more than muslims?

[Murtaza]

but they are a different ethnicity from the majority of the country. how can they NOT be a minority?

This is what you say. You are contradicting with yourself.If they are a minorty, they have right to call them what they wish. No agreement can change this. When you are looking Kurd in Turk you dont care that agreement. But when you are looking Turks in Greece it looks like you care much about agreement. We have a minority who dont have right to name themself. What a big minority rights they have(!). God bless The Democratic Greece.