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Postby suetoniuspaulinus » Sat May 21, 2005 10:36 pm

Mr Murtaza

I thank you for this support of your country but if any body stops Turkey's entry into yhe EU it will be RoC.

With KKTC in EU this might be just the right key to open the lock for Turkey.

Do not forget that Full Membership for Turkey is still many many years away.

EU also needs young cheap labor force AND raw materials that Turkey possesses.

Was it not Turgut Ozal, a minority Kurd, who suggeste that Turkey has "No need of Europe , when all of Eurasia is next door"

Do not lose faith Mr Murtaza.

I hope Turkey's aspirations are met in the near future.
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Postby Murtaza » Sat May 21, 2005 10:43 pm

suetoniuspaulinus wrote:Mr Murtaza

I thank you for this support of your country but if any body stops Turkey's entry into yhe EU it will be RoC.

With KKTC in EU this might be just the right key to open the lock for Turkey.

Do not forget that Full Membership for Turkey is still many many years away.

EU also needs young cheap labor force AND raw materials that Turkey possesses.

Was it not Turgut Ozal, a minority Kurd, who suggeste that Turkey has "No need of Europe , when all of Eurasia is next door"

Do not lose faith Mr Murtaza.

I hope Turkey's aspirations are met in the near future.



Well I dont care for EU much:)
Just need it for 5 year more. For the Humanity right and our economy.
And Just as I said, TC apply is a must.
And I am not against sacrifice of EU for TC.
After all We love TC more than EU :wink:
What I want to say is that, If they dont want to see Turkish Army in Cyprus, they have to make an agreement with TC. So Kifeas just do it pls.
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Postby suetoniuspaulinus » Sat May 21, 2005 10:53 pm

Mr Murtaza

Have you ever been here?

If ever you decide to come please let me know, I would be happy to show you around.

Unfortunately, unless you are an EU passport holder or you have a KKTC Kimlik you will not be allowed into RoC.

Mind you, I believe you live in Istanbul so I do not think you will be missing much
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Postby Kifeas » Sat May 21, 2005 11:01 pm

suetoniuspaulinus wrote:
With KKTC in EU this might be just the right key to open the lock for Turkey.


With KKTC in the E.U.? With what in the E.U.?? KKTC???

By "KKTC" you mean "TRNC," (i.e., "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus") or something else?
By E.U. you mean European Union or something else?

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Postby Murtaza » Sat May 21, 2005 11:09 pm

suetoniuspaulinus wrote:Mr Murtaza

Have you ever been here?

If ever you decide to come please let me know, I would be happy to show you around.

Unfortunately, unless you are an EU passport holder or you have a KKTC Kimlik you will not be allowed into RoC.

Mind you, I believe you live in Istanbul so I do not think you will be missing much


IF I come cyprus. Well I will go where can I go with my TC.(Turkiye Cumhuriyete) Kimlik:)
So I accept this as a promise friend:)
And if you come istanbul let me know:)
You can go everywhere with your KKTC kimlik:)
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Postby Kifeas » Sat May 21, 2005 11:11 pm

Murtaza wrote:
What I want to say is that, If they dont want to see Turkish Army in Cyprus, they have to make an agreement with TC. So Kifeas just do it pls.


We are trying my friend but Turkey also has to help. She must stop imposing her will on TCs and / or stop patronizing them. She has to let them alone and stop using them as an excuse to continue her military presence in Cyprus but instead, she must help them understand that all of Cyprus belongs to all the Cypriots and not just south Cyprus to the GCs and north Cyprus to the TCs.

If she (Turkey) can help us in the above direction, then she has no reason to be afraid of the GCs as she will have our co-operation for her E.U. aspirations, and not only.
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Postby suetoniuspaulinus » Sat May 21, 2005 11:12 pm

Mr Murtaza

Thank you for your hospitality

I look forward to meeting you one day
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Postby Kifeas » Sat May 21, 2005 11:14 pm

suetoniuspaulinus wrote: Mr Murtaza

Unfortunately, unless you are an EU passport holder or you have a KKTC Kimlik you will not be allowed into RoC.


Mr Murtaza,
You can easily fly to the International airport of Larnaka and from here you can go around all Cyprus (north and south) without any problem.
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Postby Murtaza » Sat May 21, 2005 11:23 pm

Kifeas wrote:
Murtaza wrote:
What I want to say is that, If they dont want to see Turkish Army in Cyprus, they have to make an agreement with TC. So Kifeas just do it pls.


We are trying my friend but Turkey also has to help. She must stop imposing her will on TCs and / or stop patronizing them. She has to let them alone and stop using them as an excuse to continue her military presence in Cyprus but instead,
If she (Turkey) can help us in the above direction, then she has no reason to be afraid of the GCs as she will have our co-operation for her E.U. aspirations, and not only.


Kifeas you are loosing point. Turkey cant help you.
I said you Talat has more power in Turkey than Erdogan.( At this topic)
And Kifeas how we are using them? I dont think there would be any war with greece in EU.

And I think what we lost from to Cyprus is less than we gain.(If we dont count the lifes of people)

And we dont afraid GC more, Maybe afraid a little from greece.

"she must help them understand that all of Cyprus belongs to all the Cypriots and not just south Cyprus to the GCs and north Cyprus to the TCs."

and this is what you have to made. You should help them to understand.
We cant.

and Erdogan forced to Denktaş for agreement, what happened is nothing.
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Postby suetoniuspaulinus » Sat May 21, 2005 11:30 pm

Mr Murtaza

I cannot agree with you more
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