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[turkcyp]

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[Chrisswirl]

I think this problem is completely political and greeks dont want to accept it.

Look at the map guys. There is a very small island just in the south of Turkey (not in the aegean sea I guess)

So why this island belongs to greece?

Is there some greek people living there? NO, theoretically impossible.

Is it closer to any greek islands or something? NO, much closer to Turkey.

Was there a war between greeks and turksish for that island which greeks won? NO

IT BELONGS TO GREECE BECAUSE INTERNATIONAL POLITICS WANT IT LIKE THAT.

Dont misunderstand me I dont mean that Turkey has the right in modern times to invade this island. I just mean that it is about power and politics but not law.

law is just a mask on this.

Cheers.

Are you talking about Kastelorizo (for a google search on the island click on http://www.google.com/search?q=Kastelorizo), click ? As I think you'll find that this island is indeed inhabited by Greeks; why do you think it is theoretically impossible? Greeks used to live all along the Lycian coast, this is the last part of Lycia that is Greek.

And why do they need to go to war over an island to prove that it's Greek? No Turks live there!



Views from the island ^

[magikthrill]

i think detail is eferring to a small uninhabited island (braxo-nisida in greek)

so was this island/islands not entailed in the Lausanne Treaty which established todays Greek-Turkish borders?

[Chrisswirl]

Oh, well I look like an idiot! Appologies.

magikthrill, where is this island located (is there a map with it on)?

[magikthrill]

first of all chrisswilr im not sure eihter.

but if what im talking about is right then no this island definitely cant be seen on the greek or turkish maps.

I know one of the disputed islands was called "Imia"

[magikthrill]

heres the Imia island according to CNN, obviously an unhelpful image but you get the picture:



ANd some more information regarding the specific islands:

http://www.answers.com/topic/imia-kardak-crisis

The Imia-Kardak crisis was a conflict that arose between Turkey and Greece in the Aegean Sea in 1996. Kardak Rocks (Imia in Greek, sometimes referred to as İkizce in Turkish) are two tiny islets that lie in the Aegean Sea, 3.8 nautical miles (about 7 km) off the Mugla Province, on the southwestern coast of Turkey, and 5.5 nautical miles (about 10 km) off the Greek island of Kalymnos. Their total surface area is 10 acres (about 40,000 m2).

and heres quite a more neutral observation regarding the legality of the issue:

Legality of the islets

There are many small isles, islets and rocks in the Aegean, status of which are not delimited by the territorial waters of neither Turkey nor Greece, and international treaties do not determine their ownership. Most of these can not sustain human habitation, like Kardak-Imia. However, obviously the Imia-Kardak crisis related to the disputed legality of the islets is part of a larger conflict dubbed the "Aegean problem" which comprises disputes over the continental shelf, the territorial waters, the air space and the demilitarization of the Aegean islands, all of which help shape the main conflict between Turkey and Greece. None of the above issues have been debated on international level, are repeatedly discussed by the politicians of both countries, however have not been decisively resolved.

And to relate this to Cyprus:

Let's face it, legaltiy doesnt mean much to Turkey

[achilles]

IT BELONGS TO GREECE BECAUSE INTERNATIONAL POLITICS WANT IT LIKE THAT.

Really? Kastelorizo has been Greek, is Greek and learn how to digest the fact that it will stay that way...


Why dont you tell us why the best parts of your country belong to you then? Rhetorical question, dont think too much...

[Murtaza]

http://www.turk-yunan.gen.tr/english/ae ... rdak02.htm

This page explain Greek and Turkish theses about the Kardak Rocks.

[garbitsch]

There are many small isles, islets and rocks in the Aegean, status of which are not delimited by the territorial waters of neither Turkey nor Greece, and international treaties do not determine their ownership.

So Kardak belongs neither to Greece nor to Turkey! There is nothing wrong if Turkey shows reaction to the Greek claims!

[magikthrill]

There are many small isles, islets and rocks in the Aegean, status of which are not delimited by the territorial waters of neither Turkey nor Greece, and international treaties do not determine their ownership.

So Kardak belongs neither to Greece nor to Turkey! There is nothing wrong if Turkey shows reaction to the Greek claims!

No but there is something very wrong if turkey provokes by adding their flag on the island.