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Re: PACE answer to illegals in TRNC

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:15 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
pantheman wrote:PACE TELLS TRNC TO STOP SELLING PROPERTY
Cyprus, TRNC, EU

The Parliamentary Assembly Council of Europe (PACE) has delivered a significant resolution on the Cyprus issue, which calls for a halt on all transactions in the Turkish Republic of North Cyprus (TRNC) involving Greek Cypriot property.

PACE called on the North last week to “confirm their commitment to reunifying Cyprus, and to refrain from insisting on the existence of a ‘separate state’ in the north of the island”. The EU body also said that the TRNC government had to “put an end to the sales of, and construction on, Greek Cypriot properties in the northern part of Cyprus”.

After months of debating the issues surrounding the division of the island, PACE said it “reaffirms its strong commitment to reaching a fair, lasting and comprehensive solution for a peaceful and united Cyprus” and asked for all parties involved in the dispute to do their utmost to help find a solution to the problem.

A further resolution called on all parties to “consider specific aid to help the Turkish settlers to leave” the TRNC ahead of a possible solution, as power sharing in the future would likely be based on the proportion of ethnic Turkish and Greek Cypriots resident on the island. Several reports have highlighted the alleged practice of the TRNC bringing in scores of Turkish residents to boost its power sharing advantage should a solution arise.

“I agree with the resolution and think that it confirms what the Cypriot government has been asking for in regards to finding a solution,” said Chris Christidies, a Greek Cypriot IFA. “While any solution will have to allow some of the Turkish settlers, there are many that are not genuine and will have to go. This decision caries some weight, because of the current momentum, no one wants this to fail and I believe that Turkey, which can be blocked from EU entry by PACE, will put pressure on the TRNC administration.”

Despite the seriousness of the resolution, not all companies believe that the TRNC government has the will or power to enforce its findings.

“The government cannot just stop the construction on what used to be Greek Cypriot land,” said Aykut Mazhar, director of TRNC-based Boray Developments Estate Agency. “It is a matter of stopping life going on. If they tried to enforce this, the whole market economy in the north would crash. There is such a high percentage of Greek Cypriot land here that it would just stop everything.”


There you go Halil, exactly how europe sees it. Just check the bolded statements , ahhhh music to my ears.

Bye Bye, when are you going????

Oh and here is the credible link

http://www.opp.org.uk/news_article.asp?id=2751


Helloooo put on this striaght jacket lock yourself in this room and wait for the GCs to make up their minds while they hold you hostage, fuck off, no bloody chance. The EU can first make good on their promises and then ask for concessions, they have no clout in the TRNC andn this decision will only distance them even further.


Our dear VPVP, forgive me if I call you a confused, thick-headed buffoon ( aplologies to any buffoons who may be reading this ) but you were told late last night in another thread that PACE is not the EU. This "decision" was not taken by the EU as you again claim.

Let's try and put the Partitionist Propagandist VP straight on this (again).

The Council of Europe is an organisation of 47 member countries founded in 1949 which has PACE (The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe) as one of its two statutory bodies.

Here this is from the PACE website:-

"The statutory aim of the Council of Europe, which started with ten member states and now has 47, is to achieve greater unity among its members through common action, agreements and debates. The conditions for membership are pluralistic democracy, the rule of law and respect for human rights. Only those countries, which fulfill these criteria, can accede. Consequently some countries were only able to join the Organisation at a subsequent stage; i.e. Portugal in 1976, Spain in 1977. Greece was obliged to withdraw from the Council of Europe in 1970 for a period of four years.

The Knesset of Israel participates in the work of the Parliamentary Assembly as an Observer since 1957, the Parliament of Canada since May 1997 and the Parliament of Mexico since November 1999.

The United States of America were granted Observer status with the Council of Europe on 10 January, Canada on 29 May, Japan on 21 November 1996 and Mexico on 7 December 1999. "

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.....and (again as VP was told last night) here's what some would see as funny, Turkey has been a member since 1949 and has 12 seats in PACE.

Have you got it now VPVP? :roll:
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:22 pm

OOPs Sorry VP.


Whilst typing the above and believe you me I am a slow typist, VP has acknowledged the difference between EU and Pace and offered regrets for the misunderstanding on another thread.
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If VP requests I will spoil the above in some way. Sorry again VP.
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Re: PACE answer to illegals in TRNC

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:23 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
pantheman wrote:PACE TELLS TRNC TO STOP SELLING PROPERTY
Cyprus, TRNC, EU

The Parliamentary Assembly Council of Europe (PACE) has delivered a significant resolution on the Cyprus issue, which calls for a halt on all transactions in the Turkish Republic of North Cyprus (TRNC) involving Greek Cypriot property.

PACE called on the North last week to “confirm their commitment to reunifying Cyprus, and to refrain from insisting on the existence of a ‘separate state’ in the north of the island”. The EU body also said that the TRNC government had to “put an end to the sales of, and construction on, Greek Cypriot properties in the northern part of Cyprus”.

After months of debating the issues surrounding the division of the island, PACE said it “reaffirms its strong commitment to reaching a fair, lasting and comprehensive solution for a peaceful and united Cyprus” and asked for all parties involved in the dispute to do their utmost to help find a solution to the problem.

A further resolution called on all parties to “consider specific aid to help the Turkish settlers to leave” the TRNC ahead of a possible solution, as power sharing in the future would likely be based on the proportion of ethnic Turkish and Greek Cypriots resident on the island. Several reports have highlighted the alleged practice of the TRNC bringing in scores of Turkish residents to boost its power sharing advantage should a solution arise.

“I agree with the resolution and think that it confirms what the Cypriot government has been asking for in regards to finding a solution,” said Chris Christidies, a Greek Cypriot IFA. “While any solution will have to allow some of the Turkish settlers, there are many that are not genuine and will have to go. This decision caries some weight, because of the current momentum, no one wants this to fail and I believe that Turkey, which can be blocked from EU entry by PACE, will put pressure on the TRNC administration.”

Despite the seriousness of the resolution, not all companies believe that the TRNC government has the will or power to enforce its findings.

“The government cannot just stop the construction on what used to be Greek Cypriot land,” said Aykut Mazhar, director of TRNC-based Boray Developments Estate Agency. “It is a matter of stopping life going on. If they tried to enforce this, the whole market economy in the north would crash. There is such a high percentage of Greek Cypriot land here that it would just stop everything.”


There you go Halil, exactly how europe sees it. Just check the bolded statements , ahhhh music to my ears.

Bye Bye, when are you going????

Oh and here is the credible link

http://www.opp.org.uk/news_article.asp?id=2751


Helloooo put on this striaght jacket lock yourself in this room and wait for the GCs to make up their minds while they hold you hostage, fuck off, no bloody chance. The EU can first make good on their promises and then ask for concessions, they have no clout in the TRNC andn this decision will only distance them even further.


Our dear VPVP, forgive me if I call you a confused, thick-headed buffoon ( aplologies to any buffoons who may be reading this ) but you were told late last night in another thread that PACE is not the EU. This "decision" was not taken by the EU as you again claim.

Let's try and put the Partitionist Propagandist VP straight on this (again).

The Council of Europe is an organisation of 47 member countries founded in 1949 which has PACE (The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe) as one of its two statutory bodies.

Here this is from the PACE website:-

"The statutory aim of the Council of Europe, which started with ten member states and now has 47, is to achieve greater unity among its members through common action, agreements and debates. The conditions for membership are pluralistic democracy, the rule of law and respect for human rights. Only those countries, which fulfill these criteria, can accede. Consequently some countries were only able to join the Organisation at a subsequent stage; i.e. Portugal in 1976, Spain in 1977. Greece was obliged to withdraw from the Council of Europe in 1970 for a period of four years.

The Knesset of Israel participates in the work of the Parliamentary Assembly as an Observer since 1957, the Parliament of Canada since May 1997 and the Parliament of Mexico since November 1999.

The United States of America were granted Observer status with the Council of Europe on 10 January, Canada on 29 May, Japan on 21 November 1996 and Mexico on 7 December 1999. "

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.....and (again as VP was told last night) here's what some would see as funny, Turkey has been a member since 1949 and has 12 seats in PACE.

Have you got it now VPVP? :roll:


Thank you for your humane explanation, it says more about you than me, which ever body or whom ever they represent if we dont like what they agree we will not be forced into doing anything so its just another resolution that will end up in the archives and give the GCs 5 minutes of feeling they are right, what does it change? Ill tell you nothing, not one Turkish solider will leave, not one inch of land will be returned and not one settler will depart.
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Postby pantheman » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:35 pm

Just typical Turkish agreements, not worth the paper they are written on. And somebody tell me why the F are we negotiating with this crooks, have no intention of honouring anything signed or otherwise.

No we need something much stronger that a shitty piece of paper with words, we need actions, serious actions :wink:

Turkey agreement, two words that can never go together in the same sentence.
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Postby humanist » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:56 pm

PACE is just as bad as the UN the difference is they get paid out by Britain to meet its needs whereas the UN gets paid out by the US. When the UN implemnts and strategies to get Turkish troops out of Cyprus you;ll see PACE implementing policies stoping TC's selling out properties that DO NOT belong to them.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:55 pm

pantheman wrote:Just typical Turkish agreements, not worth the paper they are written on. And somebody tell me why the F are we negotiating with this crooks, have no intention of honouring anything signed or otherwise.

No we need something much stronger that a shitty piece of paper with words, we need actions, serious actions :wink:

Turkey agreement, two words that can never go together in the same sentence.


Do us all a favor and persuade your leader to walk away from the negotiating table.
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Postby humanist » Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:05 pm

I dare yours to walk away ;)
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Re: PACE answer to illegals in TRNC

Postby Oracle » Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:27 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
pantheman wrote:PACE TELLS TRNC TO STOP SELLING PROPERTY
Cyprus, TRNC, EU

The Parliamentary Assembly Council of Europe (PACE) has delivered a significant resolution on the Cyprus issue, which calls for a halt on all transactions in the Turkish Republic of North Cyprus (TRNC) involving Greek Cypriot property.

PACE called on the North last week to “confirm their commitment to reunifying Cyprus, and to refrain from insisting on the existence of a ‘separate state’ in the north of the island”. The EU body also said that the TRNC government had to “put an end to the sales of, and construction on, Greek Cypriot properties in the northern part of Cyprus”.

After months of debating the issues surrounding the division of the island, PACE said it “reaffirms its strong commitment to reaching a fair, lasting and comprehensive solution for a peaceful and united Cyprus” and asked for all parties involved in the dispute to do their utmost to help find a solution to the problem.

A further resolution called on all parties to “consider specific aid to help the Turkish settlers to leave” the TRNC ahead of a possible solution, as power sharing in the future would likely be based on the proportion of ethnic Turkish and Greek Cypriots resident on the island. Several reports have highlighted the alleged practice of the TRNC bringing in scores of Turkish residents to boost its power sharing advantage should a solution arise.

“I agree with the resolution and think that it confirms what the Cypriot government has been asking for in regards to finding a solution,” said Chris Christidies, a Greek Cypriot IFA. “While any solution will have to allow some of the Turkish settlers, there are many that are not genuine and will have to go. This decision caries some weight, because of the current momentum, no one wants this to fail and I believe that Turkey, which can be blocked from EU entry by PACE, will put pressure on the TRNC administration.”

Despite the seriousness of the resolution, not all companies believe that the TRNC government has the will or power to enforce its findings.

“The government cannot just stop the construction on what used to be Greek Cypriot land,” said Aykut Mazhar, director of TRNC-based Boray Developments Estate Agency. “It is a matter of stopping life going on. If they tried to enforce this, the whole market economy in the north would crash. There is such a high percentage of Greek Cypriot land here that it would just stop everything.”


There you go Halil, exactly how europe sees it. Just check the bolded statements , ahhhh music to my ears.

Bye Bye, when are you going????

Oh and here is the credible link

http://www.opp.org.uk/news_article.asp?id=2751


Helloooo put on this striaght jacket lock yourself in this room and wait for the GCs to make up their minds while they hold you hostage, fuck off, no bloody chance. The EU can first make good on their promises and then ask for concessions, they have no clout in the TRNC andn this decision will only distance them even further.


The EU does not owe the TCs anything ...they are criminally and illegally compliant with the Turkish occupation forces.

VP the process for the removal of the Turks and settlers is underway. Don't imagine that because you are being given verbal warnings, you can dismiss them, and nothing more will follow.

There are consequences to follow, from disregarding EU rulings.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:31 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
pantheman wrote:Just typical Turkish agreements, not worth the paper they are written on. And somebody tell me why the F are we negotiating with this crooks, have no intention of honouring anything signed or otherwise.

No we need something much stronger that a shitty piece of paper with words, we need actions, serious actions :wink:

Turkey agreement, two words that can never go together in the same sentence.


Do us all a favor and persuade your leader to walk away from the negotiating table.

No worries... ours will walk away to a 25 billion p/a kitty bank and yours to an eviction notice.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:14 am

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
pantheman wrote:Just typical Turkish agreements, not worth the paper they are written on. And somebody tell me why the F are we negotiating with this crooks, have no intention of honouring anything signed or otherwise.

No we need something much stronger that a shitty piece of paper with words, we need actions, serious actions :wink:

Turkey agreement, two words that can never go together in the same sentence.


Do us all a favor and persuade your leader to walk away from the negotiating table.

No worries... ours will walk away to a 25 billion p/a kitty bank and yours to an eviction notice.


Ok with me, as long as Gcs have no say over my future or daily life.
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