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[Oracle]

I guess Mr T was taught that Churchill's England won WWII single-handed

Here are the other Europeans (along with Greece and Cyprus):

France, Denmark, Belgium, The Netherlands, Norway, (Italy post '44), Ireland, Wales, Scotland, European Russia ...

(We won't bring up the rest of the Nations )

[Titsup]

Wow! I've just joined this forum because I'd like to come and work in Cyprus. But boy oh boy there's a bit of Brit-bashing, or perhaps it's all in good humour. If people are genuine and have useful skills to offer a country or can improve the economy what's the problem? Poor old sun-starved, over-taxed, credit-crunched Brits! How can you blame anybody for looking for a bit of sun and a quieter pace of life? Britain has a more tolerant and respectful attitude toward immigrants than virtually any other country I can think of. British people have diverse origins in terms of race and religion but the British Isles are over-crowded, NHS and other public services are stretched to the point of being dangerous (I speak from experience as a doctor). The typical immigrant story (e.g. USA) is that the more ambitious and successful people with strong work ethic and skills to offer look for a better lifestyle. So in theory then it will be skillful, hard-working Brits who come to Cyprus? Who can blame people for looking for a bit of sun when you look at the strong geographical relationship between the incidence of depression and lack of sunlight? One in three of all consultations to the GP in the UK are for anxiety/depressive illness and our economy is grinding to a hault. I agree that living as an ex-pat in another country calls for respect and interest in local culture and customs. Perhaps there's a specific issue with Brits in Cyprus that I'm not aware of, then it would be more helpful to be specific. But surely just bashing people on the basis of their nationality alone is frankly racist. It makes me very sad because I thought Cyprus would be a wonderful, peaceful country to call home.

[insan]

I am in your side B & S, but why is the first time that you agree with me?

She has been taught a few lessons this weekend ... and I think she has developed a soft-spot for Get Real! ... so she is being more pro-GC than usual

What lessons were those then??? In your dreams I have never had a problem with GC' s. You're the racist bitch! You are just bitter & twisted!! Crawl back under your stone and do everyone a favour STELLA GRIVAS!!!

Stella Grivas?

[CBBB]

Wow! I've just joined this forum because I'd like to come and work in Cyprus. But boy oh boy there's a bit of Brit-bashing, or perhaps it's all in good humour. If people are genuine and have useful skills to offer a country or can improve the economy what's the problem? Poor old sun-starved, over-taxed, credit-crunched Brits! How can you blame anybody for looking for a bit of sun and a quieter pace of life? Britain has a more tolerant and respectful attitude toward immigrants than virtually any other country I can think of. British people have diverse origins in terms of race and religion but the British Isles are over-crowded, NHS and other public services are stretched to the point of being dangerous (I speak from experience as a doctor). The typical immigrant story (e.g. USA) is that the more ambitious and successful people with strong work ethic and skills to offer look for a better lifestyle. So in theory then it will be skillful, hard-working Brits who come to Cyprus? Who can blame people for looking for a bit of sun when you look at the strong geographical relationship between the incidence of depression and lack of sunlight? One in three of all consultations to the GP in the UK are for anxiety/depressive illness and our economy is grinding to a hault. I agree that living as an ex-pat in another country calls for respect and interest in local culture and customs. Perhaps there's a specific issue with Brits in Cyprus that I'm not aware of, then it would be more helpful to be specific. But surely just bashing people on the basis of their nationality alone is frankly racist. It makes me very sad because I thought Cyprus would be a wonderful, peaceful country to call home.

I am a Brit and I bash them.

There are basically two types of Brits who come and live in Cyprus. On the one hand we have those who come here and accept Cyprus and Cypriots for what they are (me). On the other hand are those who can't accept Cyprus and Cypriots for what they are. These are the ones that get bashed for constantly moaning with comments such as:

Things shouldn't be like this in an EU country!
Why can't I get a decent job even if I don't speek Greek?
Why are Brits always charged more then Cypriots (this is bollocks)?
Why don't they learn to drive properly (I agree with this to a certain
extent)?
Why are all the forms and bills in Greek?
Why is it so expensive here (which it is if you buy the same products
you bought in the UK instead of buying the healthier products that
Cypriots do)?

I am sure that if there are any that I have missed out, someone will add them later.

To conclude. This is Cyprus and we like it the way it is!

[denizaksulu]

Oracle - you ever hear of the blitz in London?

Yes!

Eventually most of Europe came into the War to help the Brits in defeating the Nazis so that Freedom can prevail.

No one came to help the GCs from Turkey

Oracle you obviously have little knowledge of WW2.

Perhaps your education in respect of that war is similar to the one in GC Cyprus where it has been admitted by many prominent CGs that the 1963-74 version of events taught in the south is far from accurate.

I would be EXTREMELY interested to have the names of most of these European countries which assisted Britain so that I can pass them on to historians as it is apparent from what you say that they don't know what happened.

A list would be appreciated.

Thanks in anticipation.

To stay topical:
Greeks of Greece. Greeks of Cyprus.

COrrection:

Greeks of Greece, Cypriots of Cyprus. Period.

[LeoVirgo]

Wow. Quite a bit of a discussion going about this!

I have recently returned to Cyprus from England (lived in Manchester for 12 years) and though things have changed a bit, some things have stayed the same... Cyprus has always been a little bit of an oxymoron (born and bred Cypriot btw). On the one hand, we are famous for our hospitality to our guests. On the other hand, I know that we are racist - this is something I see every day in the way a lot of people talk about and behave towards people form abroad, especially Asians and Eastern Europeans.

But back to the thread point: I've always thought that the Brit bashing I heard in every day life in Cyprus (which is not often to be honest in my experience), was regarding tourists and not people who moved to stay here. There is the stereotype of a young English tourist who goes on holiday in the sun, who gets drunk and fights. This is not to say this is the majority - it's just who you hear about more. I haven't really seen any Brit bashing centered on people moving from UK to here per se ... maybe some general racist remarks about "ξένους", but I've always thought this was targeted to nobody in specific, apart from perhaps those poor Polish people who get bashed everywhere they go ...

By the way, on the flip side, I have been the target of more than one racist remark and attack while in Manchester. Funny one was when I was attacked because a group of people thought I was Polish and was "taking their jobs away from them"... When I said I was Cypriot, they stopped to think for a second (maybe didn't know where that was and whether it warranted any further action on their part?). Gave me enough time to get my wife and myself out of their way.

Personal opinion: Racism is terrible in all forms.

[CBBB]

Wow. Quite a bit of a discussion going about this!

I have recently returned to Cyprus from England (lived in Manchester for 12 years) and though things have changed a bit, some things have stayed the same... Cyprus has always been a little bit of an oxymoron (born and bred Cypriot btw). On the one hand, we are famous for our hospitality to our guests. On the other hand, I know that we are racist - this is something I see every day in the way a lot of people talk about and behave towards people form abroad, especially Asians and Eastern Europeans.

But back to the thread point: I've always thought that the Brit bashing I heard in every day life in Cyprus (which is not often to be honest in my experience), was regarding tourists and not people who moved to stay here. There is the stereotype of a young English tourist who goes on holiday in the sun, who gets drunk and fights. This is not to say this is the majority - it's just who you hear about more. I haven't really seen any Brit bashing centered on people moving from UK to here per se ... maybe some general racist remarks about "ξένους", but I've always thought this was targeted to nobody in specific, apart from perhaps those poor Polish people who get bashed everywhere they go ...

By the way, on the flip side, I have been the target of more than one racist remark and attack while in Manchester. Funny one was when I was attacked because a group of people thought I was Polish and was "taking their jobs away from them"... When I said I was Cypriot, they stopped to think for a second (maybe didn't know where that was and whether it warranted any further action on their part?). Gave me enough time to get my wife and myself out of their way.

Personal opinion: Racism is terrible in all forms.

If you read my post above, it is not a case of racism against Brits. Personally I have never felt that a Cypriot has racially abused me.

I get called pushto englezo, but I take it the way it is meant, which is not malicious, and normally reply with pushto kypriao which is also accepted without rancour.

As I said the Brit bashing is for those that can't accept that this is Cyprus.

[zan]

Wow. Quite a bit of a discussion going about this!

I have recently returned to Cyprus from England (lived in Manchester for 12 years) and though things have changed a bit, some things have stayed the same... Cyprus has always been a little bit of an oxymoron (born and bred Cypriot btw). On the one hand, we are famous for our hospitality to our guests. On the other hand, I know that we are racist - this is something I see every day in the way a lot of people talk about and behave towards people form abroad, especially Asians and Eastern Europeans.

But back to the thread point: I've always thought that the Brit bashing I heard in every day life in Cyprus (which is not often to be honest in my experience), was regarding tourists and not people who moved to stay here. There is the stereotype of a young English tourist who goes on holiday in the sun, who gets drunk and fights. This is not to say this is the majority - it's just who you hear about more. I haven't really seen any Brit bashing centered on people moving from UK to here per se ... maybe some general racist remarks about "ξένους", but I've always thought this was targeted to nobody in specific, apart from perhaps those poor Polish people who get bashed everywhere they go ...

By the way, on the flip side, I have been the target of more than one racist remark and attack while in Manchester. Funny one was when I was attacked because a group of people thought I was Polish and was "taking their jobs away from them"... When I said I was Cypriot, they stopped to think for a second (maybe didn't know where that was and whether it warranted any further action on their part?). Gave me enough time to get my wife and myself out of their way.

Personal opinion: Racism is terrible in all forms.

If you read my post above, it is not a case of racism against Brits. Personally I have never felt that a Cypriot has racially abused me.

I get called pushto englezo, but I take it the way it is meant, which is not malicious, and normally reply with pushto kypriao which is also accepted without rancour.

As I said the Brit bashing is for those that can't accept that this is Cyprus.

In other more civilised countries in the EU..Like the UK..You would get prosecuted if you called them Bubbles.....Except if you are prince Charles and you call an Indian friend Sooty...

[zan]

Wow. Quite a bit of a discussion going about this!

I have recently returned to Cyprus from England (lived in Manchester for 12 years) and though things have changed a bit, some things have stayed the same... Cyprus has always been a little bit of an oxymoron (born and bred Cypriot btw). On the one hand, we are famous for our hospitality to our guests. On the other hand, I know that we are racist - this is something I see every day in the way a lot of people talk about and behave towards people form abroad, especially Asians and Eastern Europeans.

But back to the thread point: I've always thought that the Brit bashing I heard in every day life in Cyprus (which is not often to be honest in my experience), was regarding tourists and not people who moved to stay here. There is the stereotype of a young English tourist who goes on holiday in the sun, who gets drunk and fights. This is not to say this is the majority - it's just who you hear about more. I haven't really seen any Brit bashing centered on people moving from UK to here per se ... maybe some general racist remarks about "ξένους", but I've always thought this was targeted to nobody in specific, apart from perhaps those poor Polish people who get bashed everywhere they go ...

By the way, on the flip side, I have been the target of more than one racist remark and attack while in Manchester. Funny one was when I was attacked because a group of people thought I was Polish and was "taking their jobs away from them"... When I said I was Cypriot, they stopped to think for a second (maybe didn't know where that was and whether it warranted any further action on their part?). Gave me enough time to get my wife and myself out of their way.

Personal opinion: Racism is terrible in all forms.

If you read my post above, it is not a case of racism against Brits. Personally I have never felt that a Cypriot has racially abused me.

I get called pushto englezo, but I take it the way it is meant, which is not malicious, and normally reply with pushto kypriao which is also accepted without rancour.

As I said the Brit bashing is for those that can't accept that this is Cyprus.

In other more civilised countries in the EU..Like the UK..You would get prosecuted if you called them Bubbles.....Except if you are prince Charles and you call an Indian friend Sooty...

seriously though..The Brits should stop being so bloody prissy and start to take action against such description and abuse..You are in the EU where racism is not allowed...Call the police.....Wear a crash helmet though for the police brutality you are going to get...

[Oracle]

Wow! I've just joined this forum because I'd like to come and work in Cyprus. But boy oh boy there's a bit of Brit-bashing, or perhaps it's all in good humour. If people are genuine and have useful skills to offer a country or can improve the economy what's the problem? Poor old sun-starved, over-taxed, credit-crunched Brits! How can you blame anybody for looking for a bit of sun and a quieter pace of life? Britain has a more tolerant and respectful attitude toward immigrants than virtually any other country I can think of. British people have diverse origins in terms of race and religion but the British Isles are over-crowded, NHS and other public services are stretched to the point of being dangerous (I speak from experience as a doctor). The typical immigrant story (e.g. USA) is that the more ambitious and successful people with strong work ethic and skills to offer look for a better lifestyle. So in theory then it will be skillful, hard-working Brits who come to Cyprus? Who can blame people for looking for a bit of sun when you look at the strong geographical relationship between the incidence of depression and lack of sunlight? One in three of all consultations to the GP in the UK are for anxiety/depressive illness and our economy is grinding to a hault. I agree that living as an ex-pat in another country calls for respect and interest in local culture and customs. Perhaps there's a specific issue with Brits in Cyprus that I'm not aware of, then it would be more helpful to be specific. But surely just bashing people on the basis of their nationality alone is frankly racist. It makes me very sad because I thought Cyprus would be a wonderful, peaceful country to call home.

I am a Brit and I bash them.

There are basically two types of Brits who come and live in Cyprus. On the one hand we have those who come here and accept Cyprus and Cypriots for what they are (me). On the other hand are those who can't accept Cyprus and Cypriots for what they are. These are the ones that get bashed for constantly moaning with comments such as:

Things shouldn't be like this in an EU country!
Why can't I get a decent job even if I don't speek Greek?
Why are Brits always charged more then Cypriots (this is bollocks)?
Why don't they learn to drive properly (I agree with this to a certain
extent)?
Why are all the forms and bills in Greek?
Why is it so expensive here (which it is if you buy the same products
you bought in the UK instead of buying the healthier products that
Cypriots do)?

I am sure that if there are any that I have missed out, someone will add them later.

To conclude. This is Cyprus and we like it the way it is!

I'll comment here by way of support to CBBB, and further add to Dr. Titsup, that he has (inadvertently) painted a far worse picture of Britain than indeed anyone else has on this forum ... yet he cannot see that this is exactly why we are so protective of Cyprus. We have seen the extremes of deprivation an erosion of culture can cause, and as you say CBBB, we like Cyprus the way it is .... extremely cultured.

I detect also that Dr Titsup is throwing out feelers to find out who will be the first to bring up Britain's Colonial atrocities on Cyprus ....