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[halil]

21st March Agreement is standing on the table with its signatures !!!

President Mehmet Ali Talat has reminded of the fact that he reached an agreement earlier with the Leader of the Greek Cypriot Administration Demetris Christofias on the formation of a partnership state established by two equal constituent states in case of a solution in Cyprus.


He said this agreement stands on the table as signed.

Evaluating the Cyprus negotiations process to a Greek Cypriot newspaper, the President said the Republic of Cyprus governed by Greek Cypriots has violated the Turkish Cypriot rights and he made reference to the international isolation imposed on the Turkish Cypriot People in
regard.

Reminding that between years 1963-1974 the goal was to take possession of the island as a whole when carrying out attacks against Turkish Cypriots, President Talat said it is impossible for him to send messages on the celebration of the establishment of the 1960 Republic of Cyprus.

The Greek Cypriot newspaper quoted the President as saying ‘the current Republic of Cyprus must be abolished’.

Talat also reminded that the European Union envisages the membership of Cyprus as a whole under the structure of a partnership state and stressed that there is no way of accepting the maintenance of the current Republic of Cyprus.

The newspaper referred to the joint statement of two leaders read out by the UN Special Representative to Cyprus- Taye Brook Zerihoun following the Talat-Christofias meeting on the 23rd May regarding the 21st March Agreement, and quoted the statement as ‘the partnership will be established by a Turkish Cypriot and a Greek Cypriot constituent state of equal status on the basis of a federal government which will have single international identity’.

President Talat once again reminded that this agreement, as announced before, is standing on the table with its signatures.

[Viewpoint]

A virgin birth is in order me thinks, well done President Talat.

[halil]

Talat interview can be read from todays Fileleftheros Newspaper.

[paliometoxo]

bullshit we never accept two states and nore will there ever be two states you theivs will never make the invasion of yours legal

[Oracle]

EU Law is paramount and there will never be a "virgin birth" nor anything like a partnership ... Nothing has been Agreed ... it is all still under negotiation. Talat is premature ....

[halil]

Go and see the UN web site what they were agreed and declare front of the world ......the joint statement of two leaders read out by the UN Special Representative to Cyprus- Taye Brook Zerihoun following the Talat-Christofias meeting on the 23rd May .

rest of it bullshit mate .......


Signatures and words are speaking ..... not the others saying or wishing ....
u know what they call it in Diplomacy

[paliometoxo]

lots of papers telling turkey to get the f out of cyprus but turkey just ignores it when it suits them...


there will never be two states you turks will never steal our island come 2009 turkeys eu will be out the window then eu will force turkey out of eu land

[pantheman]

Halil, may I remind you also that Turkey also signed the customs union agreement, but do they recognise cypriot registered ships??

Go F yourself. Thanks

Further, the kind of talk thet your man Talat is speaking is not conducive to any settlement talks, and I wonder whats really behind these outbursts.

Seems to me, he is setting up the scene to back out and try to blame the GC AGAIN. They are actions unbecoming of a person in his position that is trying to negotiate a settlement.

You are upto your dirty tricks AGAIN.

On yer bike mate!

[Nikitas]

Read the Phileleftheros article. Talat has a personal problem with the RoC, which is good, because then he can understand how all of us who were displaced from the north feel about the TRNC and our need to see that entity squashed.

Problem with his ambition is that the process must be approved by 27 EU member states.

And naturally Talat wants to change the laws of the EU because as they stand now, the laws which are good enough for 27 other nations, put the TCs at risk. He did not specify the risk.

[Kifeas]

For the record, this is exactly how Talat’s interview was reported in Phileleftheros newspaper:

"Firing against the Greek Cypriot side, and especially against President Christofias, Mehmet Ali Talat argued that “in theory they accept the sharing of power and consequently,” as he said, “also the sharing of sovereignty of Cyprus, but then they back truck.” Mr Talat has even used President Christofias as an “example,” arguing that “he accepted that the partnership state will consist of two constituent states of equal status, one Greek Cypriot constituent state and one Turkish Cypriot constituent state, but the criticism he took from inside his coalition-opposition, made him change his position and began to forget his agreement on this issue.” “But the agreement is there. Signed by him and being there,” remarked Mehmet Ali Talat, attempting in this way to explain the criticism he made from the podium of the PACE towards the GC side and President Christofias, for their objection to accept “dual sovereignty.”

And then, this is the miserable translation of Halil’s “Bayrak source," of what “Phileleftheros” wrote:

The newspaper referred to the joint statement of two leaders read out by the UN Special Representative to Cyprus- Taye Brook Zerihoun following the Talat-Christofias meeting on the 23rd May regarding the 21st March Agreement, and quoted the statement as ‘the partnership will be established by a Turkish Cypriot and a Greek Cypriot constituent state of equal status on the basis of a federal government which will have single international identity’.

Everyone may easily notice the obvious distortion.

Now, on the essence. Christofias insists that what he accepted in the 23rd of May joined communiqué between him and Talat is that the (existing since the 1960 establishment of the RoC) partnership, (partnership between the two communities -since the two leaders meet and negotiate -as per all the UN resolutions- in their capacity of being the representatives /leaders of the two communities, and not as leaders or presidents of any two existing states,) will continue and produce a new political set-up (to replace the 1960 unitary state set-up,) which (new set-up) will consist of a federal government and two constituent sates of equal status. In other words, the federal state and the two constituent states will be a new by-product of the existing partnership between the two communities, and not the other way around, i.e. the partnership to be a new one, and a by product of an agreement between any two separate and legitimately existing “sovereign” states.

The Turkish side –and Talat, maintain that what they have agreed on the 23rd of May 2008, is that the two (already existing to them) constituent (which they “translate” as co-founder) states will enter into a (new) partnership agreement between themselves, through which a federal government will be formed /produced, and which (federal government) will be endowed (earn) its sovereignty from the two (“sovereign” and “existing” to them) constituent states.

For the record, this is the actual text of the 23rd of May 2008 joined communiqué, as it was red by Zerihoun:

“…the two leaders reaffirmed their commitment for a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation with political equality, as defined by relevant UN Security Council resolutions.” “This partnership will have a federal government with a single international personality, as well as a Turkish Cypriot constituent state and a Greek Cypriot constituent state which will be of equal status.''

Anyone with only a grain of English language knowledge, will see that the closest interpretation is the one accepted and maintained by Christofias, and the one accepted and maintained by Talat is a profound distortion of how the text reads. The partnership between the two community leaders will ignite or establish the federal government and the two constituent states, and not the other way around, as Talat maintains. Furthermore, where is the mention about sovereignty, shared, dual or otherwise, in this agreement? From where does Talat extract this idea that Christofias agreed to a dual and /or shared sovereignty between the two states, or the two “people,” or even the two communities for this matter?