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[Oracle]

Either way ... it seems they are wasting their/our time if they are trying to sort out any type of two-state system, as the CoE has already stated it will not allow an Iron Curtain between East and West to be set up in Cyprus ... or any other form of a divided country.

[humanist]

Thank you kifeas for the crearing of the issue. I believe I need to stop reading anything halil posts, clearly not very honest or truthful.

thank you

[Get Real!]

21st March Agreement is standing on the table with its signatures !!!

The only signatures so far are those calling for your confinement in a straight-jacket...

[humanist]

its funny how the Turks of Cyprus think they run the show. I think the 2004 referendum showed exactly how the GC's feel about the injustice and violations of their rights and they will vote no again if need be. so talat better stop being a racist and come up with proposals that will unify the nation not partition it.

[repulsewarrior]

three governments=bicommunal

many times the same correction, for shame halil (you know better).

[Viewpoint]

its funny how the Turks of Cyprus think they run the show. I think the 2004 referendum showed exactly how the GC's feel about the injustice and violations of their rights and they will vote no again if need be. so talat better stop being a racist and come up with proposals that will unify the nation not partition it.

Do we also have the right to say no?

[repulsewarrior]

VP, we have been at this game for over thirty years. And over that time, only Denktash has been cited by each and every SG at the UN for intransigence and the cause of the impasse.

you have an equal right, and because the "Greeks" said "no" to a plan that was nothing more than a plan it is no reason to seek pity, or to produce this incidence as proof for the need to accept Turkey's fait accompli. remember, we all voted "for" unity.

furthermore, if the signatures are on the agreement which is our subject in this thread, i fully expect that it is respected, unlike the misquote (again and again) by halil in particular and generally in the (turkish) press. i expect mr. talat to stand up, if he is a leader, for all cypriots, without distinction for their creed or colour, and as the representative for Turkish Cypriots to govern himself in a manner where all of us can feel a sense of pride in this distinction, not just a segment of the TC population, as a confident and inclusive people, who with his counterpart chrisofias, are clear in this desire to represent the best of our nature as Human beings (Individual and/or Person), by character, and by our origins as well, in their negociations.

i expect a State where we are Individuals, who are united in bettering our condition as People. And i expect another level of government where, as Communities we are equals, and able, in sustaining our respective identities as Persons.

this isolation from each other IS a form of racism (and a form of control). we are this island's dwellers: THAT is the fact. it is the moment where we must choose, and its Heritance is older than "us". it is not the Cypriot way, and i don't care if you are "Greek", or "Turkish", or your fears, it is wrong.

[Viewpoint]

VP, we have been at this game for over thirty years. And over that time, only Denktash has been cited by each and every SG at the UN for intransigence and the cause of the impasse.

you have an equal right, and because the "Greeks" said "no" to a plan that was nothing more than a plan it is no reason to seek pity, or to produce this incidence as proof for the need to accept Turkey's fait accompli. remember, we all voted "for" unity.

furthermore, if the signatures are on the agreement which is our subject in this thread, i fully expect that it is respected, unlike the misquote (again and again) by halil in particular and generally in the (turkish) press. i expect mr. talat to stand up, if he is a leader, for all cypriots, without distinction for their creed or colour, and as the representative for Turkish Cypriots to govern himself in a manner where all of us can feel a sense of pride in this distinction, not just a segment of the TC population, as a confident and inclusive people, who with his counterpart chrisofias, are clear in this desire to represent the best of our nature as Human beings (Individual and/or Person), by character, and by our origins as well, in their negociations.

i expect a State where we are Individuals, who are united in bettering our condition as People. And i expect another level of government where, as Communities we are equals, and able, in sustaining our respective identities as Persons.

this isolation from each other IS a form of racism (and a form of control). we are this island's dwellers: THAT is the fact. it is the moment where we must choose, and its Heritance is older than "us". it is not the Cypriot way, and i don't care if you are "Greek", or "Turkish", or your fears, it is wrong.

Repulse the last impasse was caused by the GCs thats the one everyone remembers because it was the first time it was put to vote of the people.
President Talat is the only flexible leader and real believer in unification, there is no one else to replace him, do you want a hardliner who will not give GCs the time of day or settler who arrived in 1975 who has no past or sympathies towards GCs? If the GCs really mean business then their best option is President Talat because you have no chnace with any one from the other parties.

Never forget we have just as much weight as the GCs in deicding the solution, if you have a democratic right to say no then you cannot deny us this right either because a new plan may not be anything we wish to accept so have no doubt we will say no.

The current situation is just as much you doing as it mine and we will fight our corner as we see fit, by now you must understand that we are a proud people and will not live under GC dominance or discrimination ever again.

We to want there to be an end to this problem where everyone is 100% satisfied but we all know this will not be the case and one side will have to give more than the other, we all want to live in political harmony and allow all people of this beautiful island equal opportunity to better themselves, thats why an equal playing field is necessary so the people can choose for themselves under which administration they wish to live north or south.

[repulsewarrior]

not north and south my friend: "Greek Cypriot" or "Turkish Cypriot".

...now consider again, how "enclaves" can be added to our geography.

[humanist]

VP

Do we also have the right to say no?

VP you also HAVE the right to say NO. The question you have to be asking yourseves is can your community afford to say NO.

You are already lacking behind the ROC 34 years of progress. With the exception of the very few of you who eat and fill up your bellies from the regmes coffers the others will say a big fat yes again because they have got a taste of the greener grass on the other side.

Europe does not want Turkey in the EU we all know it and unless you side wuth the GC's and Europe on this one you will remain with what you got for a long time yet, because Europe ain't about to hand its territory to Turkey.

It wants Turkey out of Cyprus just as much as the Cypiots best to have 5o miles of water between Europ and Turkey than right in its back yard.[/quote]